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EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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To me, this just drives home the point that it is more about control than about anything scientific. The wealthy class want their perks and privileges while corraling the plebeians so that we won't use "their precious resources" or ruining their enjoyments.

Reminds me of https://marketresearchtelecast.com/the-minister-of-consumer-...

A few weeks ago the same Sanchez said that we Spaniards should eat way less meat by the year 2050. Obviously that won't apply to him.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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I'd be very reticent to take the source that OP has given. If it appears elsewhere, fine, but Guido and chums are not credible, especially on matters pertaining to the EU. They are ideological and partisan.

The only other outlets carrying this story are of suspect origins, too:

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=eu+carbon+tax+private+jets&...

See: RT.

There is one more credible looking source though, which is this one:

https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2231434-eu-draft-exempts-...

The key wording:

> The European Commission has proposed exempting private jets and cargo flights from the planned EU jet fuel tax.

It has proposed this. Which is to say that it can be amended with input from back channels from both Europarl _and_ the national governments. I would be surprised if this headline grabbing omission wasn't kiboshed totally.

As usual, Guido will take the opportunity to bash Europe without fairly portraying how it works. This is basic journalistic failure equivalent to slamming Westminster because of the publication of a green paper.

EDIT: Original link was to an awful source, the lovely moderators have changed it.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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This seems to be the upstream source article: https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2231434-eu-draft-exempts-...

Isn't this still a very .. unknown source to be using as basis for this type of outragy-clickbaity article?

I can't change the link itself, but I changed the HN headline to match the Argus article, which makes more clear that this is a draft proposal.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who talks about jets or crews? This doesn't affect billionaires, but private and recreational use of mostly small propeller planes. Flying is expensive, but it isn't a privilege of "rich jerks". You want to make it a privilege for the elite, then go ahead and tax it to death.

GA in the EU is definitely the preserve of the rich.

GA?

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That and it's also the most wasteful use of fuel, because you're lifting an entire jet and crew for more than likely a single rich jerk who feels too special to fly passenger jets like everyone else. On a carbon-per-person metric, private jets are literally the worst .

> On a carbon-per-person metric, private jets are literally the worst. Were the worst. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_tourism

This just makes the per-person metric a useless metric. There's not a lot of space flights to even point it out as a issue.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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To me, this just drives home the point that it is more about control than about anything scientific. The wealthy class want their perks and privileges while corraling the plebeians so that we won't use "their precious resources" or ruining their enjoyments.

The wealthy class are, presumably, wealthy enough to pay the carbon tax and still enjoy the perks and privileges of private jets though? It's not like they're being exempted from a ban on flying private jets, but rather a tax on them. Their wealth itself was already their ticket to perks and privilege, because it lets them pay the tax.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

#69

To me, this just drives home the point that it is more about control than about anything scientific. The wealthy class want their perks and privileges while corraling the plebeians so that we won't use "their precious resources" or ruining their enjoyments.

Its been the same with lockdown. Enforce totalitarian restrictions and tracking on the plebes, whilst the rich and connected routinely ignore or are excluded from the rules.

Its possible that Lockdown is a ploy to distract from the trillions of dollars of money printing that has gone on during the pandemic, to suppress the inflation generated, as well as to normalise location and biological data collection and arbitrary interference in personal liberty and private businesses.

It seems unlikely that the motivation is really the health of the populace, when deaths and ill health from air pollution and obesity, and from the interrupted medical treatments during Lockdown itself, are routinely ignored.

You can follow the same logical pattern for all the other major issues of our time. Are the massive migration inflows of violent military-age males into Europe from MENA really about humanitarian aid, or about injecting cheap labour into the continent and providing justification for giant intelligence agencies, tracking and banning of encryption?

The same for critical race theory - is the goal the betterment of humankind, or to set the working class against eachother and to distract from insane wealth capture of the 1%?

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