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EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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A relevant video examining the potential alternatives to jet fuel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BK7PRugK4

A TL;DW is that biofuels are unscalable and worse for the environment than standard fuels. Hydrogen is not yet viable, and would require entirely new aircraft designs. Electricity will likely never be viable for all but the smallest low-range aircraft. E-fuels (fuel made using carbon capture) is not yet viable, but may be a viable long term option.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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> Private jets will enjoy an exemption through classification of "business aviation" as the use of aircraft by firms for carriage of passengers or goods as an "aid to the conduct of their business", if generally considered not for public hire. > A further exemption is given for "pleasure" flights whereby an aircraft is used for "personal or recreational" purposes not associated with a business or professional use. Su…

I don't understand the business aviation exemption at all. Why does it matter that the flight is being conducted to "aid to the conduct of their business"? And how is that different from other passenger flights?

What about ICE, do companies also not have to pay the Ökosteuer (green tax) on gas in Germany?

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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> Private jets will enjoy an exemption through classification of "business aviation" as the use of aircraft by firms for carriage of passengers or goods as an "aid to the conduct of their business", if generally considered not for public hire. > A further exemption is given for "pleasure" flights whereby an aircraft is used for "personal or recreational" purposes not associated with a business or professional use. Su…

That and it's also the most wasteful use of fuel, because you're lifting an entire jet and crew for more than likely a single rich jerk who feels too special to fly passenger jets like everyone else. On a carbon-per-person metric, private jets are literally the worst.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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To me, this just drives home the point that it is more about control than about anything scientific. The wealthy class want their perks and privileges while corraling the plebeians so that we won't use "their precious resources" or ruining their enjoyments.

"more about control"

Control what though?

It's a carbon tax on jet fuel. Makes sense to me that some folks with some connections could get themself exempt (even if unfair).

But I don't see anyone else paying any more or less under "control"... those folks are still going to travel.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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Quoting from https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2231434-eu-draft-exempts-... (thanks jey) > The commission is worried that taxing fuel for cargo-only flights would adversely affect EU carriers. Adversely affecting the aviation industry is kind of the whole point you gits.

Their point was a bit more subtle, it meant that EU carriers would effectively be penalized relative to non-EU carriers operating in the EU, because other agreements precluded applying the tax to those (non-EU) carriers.

Means they need another tool.

The exception for private jets seems hard to defend though, whether business or pleasure.

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