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Tencent deploys facial recognition to detect minors gaming at night

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Post by mensetmanusman »

calsy wrote: post #423
mensetmanusman wrote: post #419

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“ You live in a community, if you take actions generally frowned upon by the majority of people, like it or not you will possibly receive some negative consequences, especially if it involves children. ” This is the logic used by people who call the police on children walking to the park without an adult. These are commonly people who watch a lot of news (and are therefore more misinformed according to multiple studi…

Stop pretending you're more 'informed' then others or an expert on risk management. You think leaving multiple kids in a car with the engine on is effective risk management. Now you're trying to convince us it's weird that someone would ring the police if they saw a child wandering the streets without a parent. So they are too young to manage a carpark and its best they stay locked in a car, but letting them wonder o…

Sorry if it seemed like arguing, just trying to frame my reasoning:) peace!

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Post by saithound »

noduerme wrote: post #425
saithound wrote: post #379

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Yes, there are. Examples that immediately come to mind: - Anyone driving a large vehicle for more than 9 hours per day, 56 in a week, and 90 over a two-week period in the European Union. - Adults using a tanning under a sunlamp for more than one cycle in a 24 hour period in many countries (others, such as Australia, did ban them entirely). - Children spending more than 10 hours per day in child care centers in many U…

All of your examples limit or prescribe hours of work. This implies that the remaining time is free. There is a fundamental difference between telling a minor what they have to do some hours of the day - e.g. go to school - and telling them how they must apportion the entire rest of their time when they've finished their work. "Free time" loses meaning if it's all surveilled and controlled. Truckers don't have to be…

> All of your examples limit or prescribe hours of work.

Well, I guess you should give those examples another read. Unless you consider using a tanning bed to be work. Not to mention "buying alcohol at night".

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Post by firestarter223 »

myrmidon wrote: post #252
firestarter223 wrote: post #216

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On the contrary, the last couple of years (including corona) have shown how much misinformation governments and schools are willing to spread. I worry a lot about the best ways to shield my children from that.

> last couple of years (including corona) have shown how much misinformation governments and schools are willing to spread. I'm genuinely curious-- What specifially are you talking about? I'm having a really hard time coming up with harmful misinformation that is perpetuated intentionally by the education system (or government) in any western country...

Gender studies, critical race theory, climate change, environmental pollution, economics/socialism, corona, Trump...

With Trump (or maybe just the rise of social media in general) cancel culture has become rampant. The general discussion culture has become angrier and unforgiving. People feel they are fighting a war and the enemy has to be shut down at all cost.

With Corona and climate many people feel like literally their lives are at risk. With Corona, censorship of dissenting opinions has become the norm.

I don't want my kids to be taught that boys are bad by nature and have to be taught to be like girls, and girls are only good if they behave like boys.

I don't want my kids to be taught that they are inherently sexist or something-phobic if they are not gay or Trans, or merely approach somebody they are attracted to.

I don't want them to be taught that they are inherently racist and bad because they are white.

I don't want them to be taught that they are doomed because global warming will end the world in a couple of years.

I don't want them to be taught that capitalism exploits people and socialism is the only recourse.

I don't want them to be taught that they should listen to "experts" and believe the scientists. They should be taught critical thinking and doing science.

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Post by firestarter223 »

kevingadd wrote: post #297
firestarter223 wrote: post #219

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Nintendo is Japanese, and I don't think they heavily rely on such mechanics. They may have such aspects in their games for mobile phones, though.

Sadly their phone games imitate the worst things their competitors in both Japan and China are doing in terms of gambling, predatory pricing, etc. The revenue's certainly good.

True, as I said, nevertheless they seem to have a huge tradition and catalogue of non-predatory games.

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Post by calsy »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #431
calsy wrote: post #423

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Stop pretending you're more 'informed' then others or an expert on risk management. You think leaving multiple kids in a car with the engine on is effective risk management. Now you're trying to convince us it's weird that someone would ring the police if they saw a child wandering the streets without a parent. So they are too young to manage a carpark and its best they stay locked in a car, but letting them wonder o…

Sorry if it seemed like arguing, just trying to frame my reasoning:) peace!

I like a good internet 'debate', why I don't know. If It comes across as aggressive I apologise, It's more arguing the point then the person. 'Nothing personal' as they say.

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Post by VRay »

noduerme wrote: post #418
VRay wrote: post #407

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Maybe it's different in the USA, but I feel like public school was a complete waste of my time.. I'd read through the entirety of all the textbooks in the first couple of weeks of the school year and learn everything a kid my age was expected to know. Then I'd sit in class for 5 hours a day for 9 months, reading pulp sci-fi, shuffling a deck of cards, or just moping with my head on my arms. I came out of it with such…

Where I grew up in a liberal big city, the only home-schooled kids I met were super well-educated children of professionals, and were way ahead of both public and private school kids. I was a lot like you - always finished my homework before class was over, read all the materials and was bored in school most of the time. I was jealous of the home-schooled kids. My parents would say, "well but it's good to be around p…

That's a good point, the government has to decide where to draw the line between parents' freedom to educate their kids and kids' freedom to have access to an actual first world education

I think having to pass standardized tests as homeschooled kids makes sense

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Post by arkey »

noduerme wrote: post #424
araneae wrote: post #350

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I feel like this is very different in kind. Are there any other countries that enforce a daily time limit on an activity, whether for children or adults? It seems either an activity (like smoking) is typically banned entirely or allowed; having it be partially allowed like this is difficult to enforce and consequently invites weird and invasive measures like these.

You're allowed have sex. You're allowed to give someone money. But you're not give someone sex for money. What China has done is take an arbitrary, ridiculous rule like that, and make it even more absurd. Imagine if they said that after 30 minutes, a massage is by definition sex. And if you do it more than 90 minutes a week, it's sex addiction. It's just arbitrary ways of controlling the populace. I doubt if they car…

You're not taking purpose or context into consideration.

It is legal to smoke. It is legal to go into a restaurant. However, it is not legal to go into a restaurant and smoke.

That's neither arbitrary nor ridiculous, it actually makes a lot of sense.

I will agree with you that often if not always, rules come with a background shady agenda behind them, such as this one being about mass surveillance.

But it is critically important to understand the purpose of things before disregarding them.

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Post by vmarva »

jbluepolarbear wrote: post #117
andai wrote: post #100

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Could you share what you wish you hadn't found?

The treatment of the Uyghur people was the first thing that popped up on google when I search “re-education China”

Considering what Muslims constantly do here in Europe, I applaud China for taking measures before things spiral out of control.

Hope EU will finally get their heads together and act as well before it's too late.

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Post by gravstar »

Razengan wrote: post #373
anonymouszx wrote: post #272

>2018 >wake up feeling sick after a late night of playing video games >excited to play some halo infinite >"xbox on" >"XBOX ON" >"Please verify that you are "annon332" by saying Doritos™ Dew™ it right!" >"ERROR! Please drink a verification can" >reach into my Dontos Mountain Halo War Chest >only a few cans left, needed to verify 14 times last night >still feeling sick from the 14 >force it down and grumble out "mmmm…

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Already happened.
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