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Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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Post by blooalien »

A little surprising that software managed to somehow attract this level of drama. If there's any truth at all to these latest claims then 4Chan's got some way more screwed up folks among them than I'd previously heard about.

As for Audacity, I'ma just switch to another tool or tools altogther for the time being until this whole thing calms down a bit and one of the forks takes the lead. I still have KWave, LMMS, Ardour, and a couple few other options, so it's not as if I'll be unable to edit audio when I really need to. We've always got choices in the land of FOSS. ;)

Heck, I bet Blender 3D can even do audio editing if I dig around in it's docs a little bit. I know I can use it to edit video, so composing and exporting audio alone should be totally possible too I imagine.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#32

Post by gruez »

alabamacadabra wrote: post #24
brnt wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people don't walk around recording evidence all day long. Which attackers know and make use of. So the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and a good system acknowledges that. In this particular case, there seems to have been evidence submitted to the police, so why you would say there is none is strange to me.

I have been on the internet for a very long time. Someone telling a story, no matter how emotional or dramatic is merely doing that: telling a story. Until there are real-world facts to back this story up: police report, pictures of any wound, etc. please take it with a grain of salt. There are many implicit biases on the internet and not all of them are obvious. I find it plausible that some people who browse 4chan…

>Until there are real-world facts to back this story up: police report, pictures of any wound, etc. please take it with a grain of salt.

On 4chan you can find a picture of a room, with the window broken in, along with a butterfly knife and red baseball cap that resembles the ones worn by sneed.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#33

Post by [deleted] »

philpem wrote: post #28
pfundstein wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good to hear that he's pursuing it along legal channels. It also highlights the importance of managing your private information online, and what can be derived from your various "profile names".

I wonder if the advice about having different passwords to different sites needs to be expanded: have different, unrelated usernames too.

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Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#34

Post by alentist »

gruez wrote: post #32
alabamacadabra wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been on the internet for a very long time. Someone telling a story, no matter how emotional or dramatic is merely doing that: telling a story. Until there are real-world facts to back this story up: police report, pictures of any wound, etc. please take it with a grain of salt. There are many implicit biases on the internet and not all of them are obvious. I find it plausible that some people who browse 4chan…

>Until there are real-world facts to back this story up: police report, pictures of any wound, etc. please take it with a grain of salt. On 4chan you can find a picture of a room, with the window broken in, along with a butterfly knife and red baseball cap that resembles the ones worn by sneed.

Link?

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#35

Post by moralestapia »

gruez wrote: post #32
alabamacadabra wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been on the internet for a very long time. Someone telling a story, no matter how emotional or dramatic is merely doing that: telling a story. Until there are real-world facts to back this story up: police report, pictures of any wound, etc. please take it with a grain of salt. There are many implicit biases on the internet and not all of them are obvious. I find it plausible that some people who browse 4chan…

>Until there are real-world facts to back this story up: police report, pictures of any wound, etc. please take it with a grain of salt. On 4chan you can find a picture of a room, with the window broken in, along with a butterfly knife and red baseball cap that resembles the ones worn by sneed.

I saw the picture, it was uploaded by an anonymous user to 4chan, cookieengineer hasn't claimed it belongs to him and it's honestly too perfect to be true, including the sneed cap. I wouldn't discard a 4chan user setting up that scene just for fun.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#36

Post by [deleted] »

normac2 wrote: post #22
arpstick wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be more inclined to believe that the /g/ board (the board implicated) did what was accused if what happened was that he did something far more grave like saying he has an iphone that he absolutely loves and loves using MacOS.

That's a solid joke, but I wonder, does that actually significantly tweak your priors in favor of this being untrue? All of these different boards have their own bizarro codes of honor, so I wouldn't be surprised.

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Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#37

Post by alentist »

unethical_ban wrote: post #30
alabamacadabra wrote: post #10

These are serious allegations. Allegations of such seriousness should require proof of equally serious merit before conclusions are drawn. Also, why does it seem this particular website or sites like Reddit become personified through action whereas Facebook, YT, Video Games etc don’t? We don’t say “a crazy person from counter strike” we say, “a crazy person playing X or Y game”. The framing here to this story is stra…

>These are serious allegations. Allegations of such seriousness should require proof of equally serious merit before conclusions are drawn No, they don't. This isn't a court of law, _HN_ certainly isn't the cretin-pit that 4chan is, and it fits well within 4chan's broader reputation as a magnet for ill-adjusted harassers to do something as stupid as this. No one here is going to try to stab a 4channer, or dox a poste…

> No, they don't.

Why not?

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#38

Post by nailer »

olyjohn wrote: post #8
suby wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99 He claims to have been stabbed over this.

It says it right in the article too...

My error. However the article isn’t very well written. There’s a giant subheading which says

“Doorstep 'harassment' prompts departure”

After which I wrote the comment above.

And if someone was stabbed by someone, I’d expect that to be earlier in the article and in the title rather than “Audacity fork maintainer quits after alleged harassment by 4chan”

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#40

Post by KozmoNau7 »

sschueller wrote: post #6
chrisseaton wrote: post #3

‘Physical abuse’? As in they’ve been actually striking him in person? Not verbal abuse?

According to the github post [1] there was an attempt on his life with a knife. All kinds of police involved now. The github post was flagged on HN for an unknown reason. [1] https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99

Plenty of 4channers read HN, and of course they'd mass flag a story putting them in a bad light.
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