Don't these synthetic assets need an oracle to inject the price of the real assets into the blockchain? To stop these synthetic assets from working, couldn't they just go after the oracle provider, and make it stop providing the price?
Fake Tesla, Apple stocks have started trading on blockchains
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#162Why are we allowing this to happen? This blockchain madness needs to stop.
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Yeah, I would like to emphasize the fact that they're settled once individual contracts expire, be it cash or delivery. I am yet to find a useful derivative that lacks a settling mechanism. How would you even price such a contract that lacks settling? Like why should it be worth anything at all?
Things like BTC swaps don't really have settlement periods: every so and so numbers of often (often 1 or 8), longs pay shorts using some premium formula is swap > index, and vice verse if swap I suppose you could construe that as some periodic partial settlement mechanism, though.
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#164> But to stop mirrored stocks and other synthetic assets from trading, you would have to shut down the underlying open-source software code that makes up the blockchain and is used by a global user base that includes many anonymous players, he added. Don't these synthetic assets need an oracle to inject the price of the real assets into the blockchain? To stop these synthetic assets from working, couldn't they just g…
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#165I find it really weird how crypto folks keep pretending that financial regulation is an obviously bad thing, as opposed to restrictions put in place in response to real problems
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#166> Users can trade the tokens anonymously 24 hours a day, seven days a week, from anywhere, unhindered by capital controls, “know your client” rules imposed on broker-dealers, and other frictions of the traditional financial system. I find it really weird how crypto folks keep pretending that financial regulation is an obviously bad thing, as opposed to restrictions put in place in response to real problems
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#167> Users can trade the tokens anonymously 24 hours a day, seven days a week, from anywhere, unhindered by capital controls, “know your client” rules imposed on broker-dealers, and other frictions of the traditional financial system. I find it really weird how crypto folks keep pretending that financial regulation is an obviously bad thing, as opposed to restrictions put in place in response to real problems
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I would like to emphasize the fact that they're settled once individual contracts expire, be it cash or delivery. I am yet to find a useful derivative that lacks a settling mechanism. How would you even price such a contract that lacks settling? Like why should it be worth anything at all?
You could technically buy real shares and sell synthetic shares on the blockchain, harvesting the price difference. This would generally have the same effect as the blockchain user buying the stock directly, but through an intermediary collecting premium.
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#169> Users can trade the tokens anonymously 24 hours a day, seven days a week, from anywhere, unhindered by capital controls, “know your client” rules imposed on broker-dealers, and other frictions of the traditional financial system. I find it really weird how crypto folks keep pretending that financial regulation is an obviously bad thing, as opposed to restrictions put in place in response to real problems
These are two premise which... don't seem to hold water?
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assumed they held all the securities themselves facilitated 24/7 trading like that. Not holding the securities seems extremely dodgy.
They mint and burn tokens as necessary to make the price resemble the actual stock. When minting new tokens, you have to provide collateral in the form of stablecoins. Yes, it is as bonkers as it sounds.