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Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger

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Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger

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Post by meowface »

DevKoala wrote: post #9
tomrod wrote: post #4

Weird. Why does 4chan care about this?

I think that they don’t trust the maintainer. However 4chan raids like this are often run by third parties that can benefit from attributing this type of behavior to “anonymous” individuals. I wouldn’t be surprised if the people who bullied this individual had the goal of getting the original independent fork abandoned while also getting the new fork cancelled on the grounds of hate speech all along. I visit 4chan an…

Any anonymous website, including 4chan, is extremely easy to "game" in the way you describe, but "the site is full of propaganda from government and entities with enough capital to pay astroturfers" and saying it's safe to assume a government, bank, or large company is secretly weaponizing 4chan to raid this repository owner sounds very similar to one of the standard paranoid conspiracy theories that circulate on the site (Pizzagate, QAnon, etc.).

I'm sure some shady interference from external actors does sometimes happen on the site, but in a scenario like this, I would bet a lot of money 99 - 100% of the people involved are just /g/ trolls who think it's funny to harass the guy. This "it wasn't us!" reasoning reminds me a lot of the Gamergate people who insisted anyone harassing people was actually a false flag by someone trying to make their side look bad.

Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger

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Post by meowface »

DevKoala wrote: post #45
pigbearpig wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're telling me that a bank is going on 4chan to start raids? Please, no CEO knows what a 4chan is.

What I am saying is that I have seen a lot of evidence for organized/professional sentiment manipulation in 4chan, and there are tons of collected threads that describe how the organizations that are paid to post in 4chan work. I assume it is a professional service being sold. For example, every time I tried to make threads around this YouTube video exposing the lobbying practices of Exxon Mobile against climate chan…

>my thread would get derailed into racist stuff that had nothing to do with the video

Let's use Occam's razor here.

Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger

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Post by jbluepolarbear »

shadowgovt wrote: post #12
owlbynight wrote: post #10

There need to be harsh, harsh penalties for showing up uninvited to someone's house based on something that's happened or been said on the Internet. This is little kid shit and they either need to learn or have their toys taken away so they can't keep doing it.

Step 1 is catching them, and it's the nature of this sort of attack that doing so is deceptively hard. This kind of harassment is basically a flash-mob.

Pretty easy if they’re dumb enough to bring their phone with them.

Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger

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Post by kurofune »

>This site is the most disgusting place in the whole world, and I think all the people that are active in /g/ should get put in jail and be ashamed of themselves for making the world a worse place than it already is. >They are cyber terrorists, not cringe cancel kiddos.

I sympathize with his case but this post seems a delusional, hyperbolic rant that will make his harassers target him with renewed fervor.

They are trying to get on his nerves, he should go to the police and stop seething on the internet cause he's giving them plenty of what they really want.

Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger

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Post by tzs »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #17

Am I the only one who would just … walk outside and talk to the 4channers who showed up? Probably offer them a cig and a meme. I’ve been thinking of tweeting my home address, so this is a relevant concern. What do you even do when someone comes to your house, other than listen to them? It could also be true that they did something a lot less friendly, like “bang on the windows and run away laughing.” That would be un…

> I’ve been thinking of tweeting my home address, so this is a relevant concern.

Giving out their home address didn't work out well for Tony Stark in "Iron Man 3" or for this guy in New Jersey [1], but they both had done things to get some people really annoyed with them.

So at the very least make sure that you don't have anyone out there who is really annoyed with you and has only been prevented from forcefully expressing that annoyance because they do not know where you live.

[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-man-who-went-on-a-racist...

Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger

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Post by DevKoala »

teawrecks wrote: post #47
DevKoala wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct. The posters in 4chan are often manipulated by propaganda into these extremes behaviors. There is tons of threads in 4chan itself detailing how this happens.

Have any examples of said threads? Sounds interesting.

If I run into one re-paste of the threads that details these practices I will link it. The threads in 4chan disappear within days from their official archive. There is also a long term archive hosted by a third party, but apparently you cannot trust it.

I honestly try to not visit the place, except when I want to pick up unknown crypto tokens that will get pumped. Like I said, the site is full of propaganda and sometimes it messes up with your perception of reality.

Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger

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Post by numpad0 »

DevKoala wrote: post #45
pigbearpig wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're telling me that a bank is going on 4chan to start raids? Please, no CEO knows what a 4chan is.

What I am saying is that I have seen a lot of evidence for organized/professional sentiment manipulation in 4chan, and there are tons of collected threads that describe how the organizations that are paid to post in 4chan work. I assume it is a professional service being sold. For example, every time I tried to make threads around this YouTube video exposing the lobbying practices of Exxon Mobile against climate chan…

Oh, Internet shills are real. What I personally found funny is apparently shills for Tesla cars is substituted with own lightly trained staffs and they are sort of prone to manipulation themselves.

But calling out Exxon on 4chan? That’s brave.

Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger

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Post by DevKoala »

numpad0 wrote: post #59
DevKoala wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I am saying is that I have seen a lot of evidence for organized/professional sentiment manipulation in 4chan, and there are tons of collected threads that describe how the organizations that are paid to post in 4chan work. I assume it is a professional service being sold. For example, every time I tried to make threads around this YouTube video exposing the lobbying practices of Exxon Mobile against climate chan…

Oh, Internet shills are real. What I personally found funny is apparently shills for Tesla cars is substituted with own lightly trained staffs and they are sort of prone to manipulation themselves. But calling out Exxon on 4chan? That’s brave.

Watch the video, see who is implied in the video and then you will understand why the thread kept getting nuked.
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