I think these topics keep getting flagged because there's no evidence that any of this is actually happening.
Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
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Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
#42The absurdity is that these trolls clearly found Audacity useful. But because of them not knowing when to stop, they're going to end up with a much shittier product, possibly having just killed the future of Audacity, without the support of real devs like this one. After all, what serious developer would continue working on this knowing this project is going to endanger their life? "Congratulations, you played yourse…
They're not interested in making the world better.
Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
#43The absurdity is that these trolls clearly found Audacity useful. But because of them not knowing when to stop, they're going to end up with a much shittier product, possibly having just killed the future of Audacity, without the support of real devs like this one. After all, what serious developer would continue working on this knowing this project is going to endanger their life? "Congratulations, you played yourse…
they can’t play themselves because their only goal is chaotic harm
Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
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Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that they don’t trust the maintainer. However 4chan raids like this are often run by third parties that can benefit from attributing this type of behavior to “anonymous” individuals. I wouldn’t be surprised if the people who bullied this individual had the goal of getting the original independent fork abandoned while also getting the new fork cancelled on the grounds of hate speech all along. I visit 4chan an…
So you're telling me that a bank is going on 4chan to start raids? Please, no CEO knows what a 4chan is.
What I am saying is that I have seen a lot of evidence for organized/professional sentiment manipulation in 4chan, and there are tons of collected threads that describe how the organizations that are paid to post in 4chan work. I assume it is a professional service being sold.
For example, every time I tried to make threads around this YouTube video exposing the lobbying practices of Exxon Mobile against climate change fighting measures, my thread would get derailed into racist stuff that had nothing to do with the video and would get the thread eventually locked.
Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
#46All I'll say is that Cookie also provoked the trolls by changing his Github bio to some of their comments [0]. There's no right side here, but if you're ever put in a position where the majority of your users disagree with the way you're handling a project, it's probably best to step down rather than confronting them. That kind of democracy is what keeps open source development viable.
Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but also because someone instigated them to do so. Maybe the person just did so out of a random thought of finding it funny, or maybe because of personal dislikes or maybe because of other reason. Let's not forget people which go to extrems "for the lulz" tend also be easy to be used if you are lucky (i.e. just need to pitch the right idea to the right person in a "innocent" way, through it also comes at a consi…
Correct. The posters in 4chan are often manipulated by propaganda into these extremes behaviors. There is tons of threads in 4chan itself detailing how this happens.
Have any examples of said threads? Sounds interesting.
Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
#48Am I the only one who would just … walk outside and talk to the 4channers who showed up? Probably offer them a cig and a meme. I’ve been thinking of tweeting my home address, so this is a relevant concern. What do you even do when someone comes to your house, other than listen to them? It could also be true that they did something a lot less friendly, like “bang on the windows and run away laughing.” That would be un…
I'm guessing you don't have kids
You're right. I wish we did though. IVF is so expensive in America that it's cheaper to fly to South Korea and get the procedure done there, by $10's of thousands.
Even still, would 4chan really dare mess with someone's kid? Generally they try to avoid going to prison, or vigilante retribution.
I guess you're right though. Thanks for pointing that out. I can think of a few ways 4chan could troll someone's child without risking themselves.
Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
#49Does anyone have a tl;dr as to wtf is going on? How does something like this escalate to this level?
This is hard to understand, I think... mainly because not many people are fond of sites like 4chan and so the culture in there is quite particular, even changing dramatically from one board to another...
What happened, beyond the fact that Audacity's maintainers decided to include some telemetry and made some changes to the PA, was that the community around Audacity reacted with anger, and some people called for a fork to be made.
A developer took the call and forked the project. They assembled a team and unfortunately, now is when the actual shit storm begins, they came up with the idea of asking the community on Github to vote for a new name for the fork... Word of this got to 4chan's /g/ (technology) board and they decided to participate with the name 'Sneedacity' (which refers to a meme you can find by searching 'Sneed feed and seed').
They eventually won the vote but the maintainer, realizing this was obviously a piss-take by 4chan decided it was reasonable not to rename the fork. This should've been the end of it, but because this is the internet what on most cases would've been the correct cause of action became a direct inflammatory action against the /g/ board.
From here on there was numerous threads created on 4chan that more or less meme'd around with Audacity's fork new maintainer. At the moment, there's about 10 threads each one with around 300-odd replies (due to bump limitation). Most of them are quite satirical and at the most perverse and abusive but there is a distinct lack of 'calls for action' which further exacerbated people on 4chan, since there are several claims of this kind made on Github.
Personally I did went through every thread and there is an open debate over the fact that at least part of the new Audacity (fork) team seemed to have been posting self-doxing statements... Because posts on 4chan are anonymous it is virtually impossible to confirm this...
Either way, I'm sure this has been quite an unpleasant experience to the developer that forked Audacity. Its a classic prank going out of control because some people are just likely to push things to the limit, specially if they can do so in total impunity.
Re: Audacity fork creator steps down. Claims his life is in danger
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you're telling me that a bank is going on 4chan to start raids? Please, no CEO knows what a 4chan is.
What I am saying is that I have seen a lot of evidence for organized/professional sentiment manipulation in 4chan, and there are tons of collected threads that describe how the organizations that are paid to post in 4chan work. I assume it is a professional service being sold. For example, every time I tried to make threads around this YouTube video exposing the lobbying practices of Exxon Mobile against climate chan…
Or maybe... 4chan is full of racist assholes?