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Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/why-indian-courts-shou...

The internet is an oversized megaphone. A couple of 1000 dedicated workers can spread rumours, panic and propaganda. When you have a country of 1.3 billion people, a large portion of whom also have smartphones, who, unfortunately are also uneducated and gullible, you have the perfect environment to cause trouble. Apps like WA and Telegram, enable this megaphone to reach every nook and corner of the country. If tomorr…

If you want to talk about OGWs, let’s start with the BJP IT and WA cell

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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>Most people are just repeating something they've heard, and couldn't analyze the merits of a claim if they wanted to. This is something I have thought about a bit over last several years. A lot of people I trust to have good intentions seem to regularly indulge in untruths or exaggerations to rile up support for their cause. One particular example that comes to mind is how pretty much all liberal voices (including n…

Never heard of it before, but just googled it and it looks like it introduced a new exemption for children to work for their families: https://thediplomat.com/2016/08/indias-new-child-labor-law-b...

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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I don't know if many people realize, but this is a pivotal moment for freedom of speech in India. The archaic IT act and National Security Act are already being severely abused to arrest journalists and activists, and the new 2021 rules take this to a completely new level. What they are essentially going for is unrestricted authority on content takedown and traceability of originator of content which will force compa…

>Today, saying that cow dung does not cure covid, can land you in jail because it goes against the government's narrative. I overall agree with the point that many indian authorities have been using laws to punish dissent, but that is a little disingenuous. The specific context in that case was that those comments were made about the death of a BJP leader. So, those people were jailed for mocking the death of a polit…

It was done in poor taste indeed, but really blatant abuse of the National Security Act. This does appear to be more of a political move than anything. And there in lies the problem when such laws with broad interpretations go into effect, a government in power can leverage it to their gains. All they need is a technicality on which to trap someone.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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Can you imagine the Department of Justice declaring Twitter to be no longer protected under section 230, after flagging Trump's tweets? This feels so, so wrong.

eh. in india the government sets the boogeyman and the national media as well as the government troll factory just lap it up. read these posts. india government calls anything critical of its actions on social media as "misuse" because it breaks the image of "worlds largest democracy". Twitter is being assholes. they should just patch up like facebook which fully complies with government meaning facebook becomes the…

> Twitter is being assholes. they should just patch up like facebook which fully complies with government meaning facebook becomes the best monitoring and investigation portal for them. like the last time facebook had found some political influence on their software but once they found the ruling party was involved, they dropped the investigation

Nah. I like the increased scrutiny against Social Media companies that has come up.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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>> The move comes as tension escalates between the Indian government and Twitter. Google, Facebook, and several other firms have partially or fully complied with the IT rules, which among other things, requires any significant social media firm (any firm with over 5 million users in India) to appoint a chief compliant officer, a resident grievance officer, and a so-called nodal contact person to address on-ground con…

Because Twitter likely doesn't wants to have the Indian Govt dictate what should or shouldn't be shown on Twitter. Facebook and Google, on the other hand have decided that the business they get in India is worth the censoring/govt backdooring.

Also, it is rather hard to appoint a Chief Compliance Officer considering that this person can get arrested easily. The last interim hire that twitter did quit in a month due to continual gov't harassment;

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/twitter-interim-grie...

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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>Today, saying that cow dung does not cure covid, can land you in jail because it goes against the government's narrative. I overall agree with the point that many indian authorities have been using laws to punish dissent, but that is a little disingenuous. The specific context in that case was that those comments were made about the death of a BJP leader. So, those people were jailed for mocking the death of a polit…

>So, those people were jailed for mocking the death of a politician, not for merely saying that cowdung does not cure covid. Again, not illegal to make fun of dead people.

In many countries it is.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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>Most people are just repeating something they've heard, and couldn't analyze the merits of a claim if they wanted to. This is something I have thought about a bit over last several years. A lot of people I trust to have good intentions seem to regularly indulge in untruths or exaggerations to rile up support for their cause. One particular example that comes to mind is how pretty much all liberal voices (including n…

Never heard of it before, but just googled it and it looks like it introduced a new exemption for children to work for their families: https://thediplomat.com/2016/08/indias-new-child-labor-law-b...

Yes, I just told you that everybody was lying about the bill.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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post #79

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The internet is an oversized megaphone. A couple of 1000 dedicated workers can spread rumours, panic and propaganda. When you have a country of 1.3 billion people, a large portion of whom also have smartphones, who, unfortunately are also uneducated and gullible, you have the perfect environment to cause trouble. Apps like WA and Telegram, enable this megaphone to reach every nook and corner of the country. If tomorr…

> dont you think those who started the rumour be caught? Do you also want people who expose govt corruption or criticise the govt to be caught?

You don't need Social media to bust Govt corruption. Openly accusing Govt with facts lends much more credibility to the accuser.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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To characterize appointment of a legal compliance officer as "staffing requirements" is wrong. It makes it seem like India is forcing Twitter to hire local people. If you are a global MNC with multi billion dollar valuation, and want to operate in a market that has a billion potential users, it is only fair that the company has a local presence.

> If you are a global MNC with multi billion dollar valuation, What if you're none of those? Is it still fair to require a local presence for every single site / app / network to have access to a population?

The regulations only apply to platforms with at least 5 million registered users.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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>Again, not illegal to make fun of dead people. In India? Who knows? Probably not NSA worthy, but I wouldn't bet against anything being illegal in India. I certainly know one person who was kept in jail for years for mocking one dead person (PBUH). That person did eventually get out on bail only to soon have his throat cut. But I guess that case ties into mocking religious feelings of a community (but then, so does t…

295AB are British laws, no one is making Indians keep them

I know?
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