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Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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eh. in india the government sets the boogeyman and the national media as well as the government troll factory just lap it up. read these posts. india government calls anything critical of its actions on social media as "misuse" because it breaks the image of "worlds largest democracy". Twitter is being assholes. they should just patch up like facebook which fully complies with government meaning facebook becomes the…

Twitter should patch up and let a billion people have uncertain future on free speech (or at least what's left of it) amidst a blatant dystopia?

well facebook has done the same and they are much bigger than twitter so yeah why not?

the narcissist in chief demands his photo be plastered everywhere. anyone against that image is mowed down.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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There is definitely something going on with Indian Govt and Twitter. When the farmer's protest was on its peak, on my timeline I saw Jack Dorsey's activity liking tweets critical and mocking the current govt. I was totally shocked by Jack Dorsey's passive behaviour - you need to model and exhibit non neutral stance especially when you are the messenger of the information. Needless to say, with great power comes great…

>I always give benefit of doubt where it's due, but Twitter has definitely something sinister going with their Indian Operations. If Indian companies goes abroad they are expected to follow local laws, and if Twitter wants to operate in India it must give way to the law of the land.

Do you believe the Indian government's policies are sinister as well? If not I don't see how this is anything other than apologia dressed up as neutrality.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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Fire the Indian employees and close your office there, problem solved. The beauty of the Internet is that you don't have to have an office in every country where your service is available.

Not worth when your revenue increases by millions of dollars every quarter.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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I don't know if many people realize, but this is a pivotal moment for freedom of speech in India. The archaic IT act and National Security Act are already being severely abused to arrest journalists and activists, and the new 2021 rules take this to a completely new level. What they are essentially going for is unrestricted authority on content takedown and traceability of originator of content which will force compa…

Pivotal moment is when two outcomes are possible in a given scenario. Unfortunately, the current government has support of huge majority of people and is expected to be in power till 2030s. The pivotal moment came and went in 2019 elections and now there is little hope of any push back on draconian laws passed since then. Long has India looked at China in envy and now India is fast becoming China with in its democratic framework while the noose tightens around individual freedoms.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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>So, those people were jailed for mocking the death of a politician, not for merely saying that cowdung does not cure covid. Again, not illegal to make fun of dead people.

>Again, not illegal to make fun of dead people. In India? Who knows? Probably not NSA worthy, but I wouldn't bet against anything being illegal in India. I certainly know one person who was kept in jail for years for mocking one dead person (PBUH). That person did eventually get out on bail only to soon have his throat cut. But I guess that case ties into mocking religious feelings of a community (but then, so does t…

295AB are British laws, no one is making Indians keep them

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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Why is a government elected through due process, with free and fair elections a "crony" govt. I can understand ones hate for the policies of a govt, but this is absurd.

you are all over this thread making bad faith arguments. Just because a government is elected through the process of voting, does not mean that it is accountable to the people. Politics is a dirty business and that is as true in India as it is in the US. You would struggle to make the case that the duly elected president of the USA, one Mr Trump, was anything but a con-man whose primary aim was the enrichment of hims…

thank you. the idea of the ruiling party and their supporters is that "you elected us so we are free to do whatever the fuck we want and anyone against us is destroying the social fabric of the country by defying authority that elections gave us. "

they murdered an 88 year old activist in jail by prolonging his stay. next hearing, next hearing, next hearing and yesterday he fell to covid.

not to talk about thousands of political prisoners. their anti-terror law recently was found to have 2% conviction rate. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/2/india-terror-law-uap...

essentially they book everyone and anyone and years later they are found not guilty. justice won but the years lost for that person? no compensation for that

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/kashmiri-man-walks-free-af...

12 years this guy was imprisoned.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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I think most would call the original pagerank algorithm unbiased. Sure, any algorithm will have a bias towards a certain content length, or towards pages that contain the search terms at a particular density. But by doing that you don't arrive at algorithms that have an opinion on the holocaust or Tiananmen Square [1]. Of course Twitter somehow managed to implement the worst of both worlds, with a sorting algorithm t…

> I think most would call the original pagerank algorithm unbiased. I disagree: the point of the original Pagerank algorithm was its bias. In particular, its use of link weights gave the algorithm a strong bias for (a proxy for) relevance. An "unbiased" search algorithm would need to return results based on simple criteria, readily explained and presented to the searcher, such as "date first crawled" or "number of ke…

This is a conflation between the meanings of the word bias as “a weight” and “an ideological stance”. The thing that people take issue with is generally the latter, rather than the former.

Re: Twitter has lost liability protection in India, government says

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> You wouldn't want google manipulating search results and then claim to be neutral. But Google does manipulate search results, so ostensibly they should also be put on par with newspapers? examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27477797 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13274753 edit: Also your comment misleads on what the article reports. Twitter has not lost safe harbor because "they do gatekeeping and…

To characterize appointment of a legal compliance officer as "staffing requirements" is wrong. It makes it seem like India is forcing Twitter to hire local people. If you are a global MNC with multi billion dollar valuation, and want to operate in a market that has a billion potential users, it is only fair that the company has a local presence.

> If you are a global MNC with multi billion dollar valuation,

What if you're none of those?

Is it still fair to require a local presence for every single site / app / network to have access to a population?

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