I really hope this weakens copyright. We can live without it.
I do not agree with Github's use of copyrighted code as training for Copilot
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Re: I do not agree with Github's use of copyrighted code as training for Copilot
#22Lets face, gitlab and github valuation is based on future “ai” code autogens. Brave new world
Based on their website, Gitlab are pushing the CI\CD future not AI.
Re: I do not agree with Github's use of copyrighted code as training for Copilot
#23Re: I do not agree with Github's use of copyrighted code as training for Copilot
#24Can't you just put a robots.txt file in your project which says "no ML".
Re: I do not agree with Github's use of copyrighted code as training for Copilot
#25While I understand the sentiment wasn’t Copilot trained on code not only hosted on GitHub, but found all over the Internet? Which means hosting your code yourself would not prevent GitHub from using it to train Copilot. That raises an interesting question though - how do you opt out? Is there even a way to do it?
robots.txt, or a copyright notice saying the code can't be used to train AI which bots will ignore and open their corporate masters to liability. on edit: fixed typo
This kind of learning needs to be opt-in, not opt-out.
I would also be extremely surprised if most open source copyright holders didn't already expect their licensing terms to protect against this kind of code/authorship laundering. Speaking individually, I know that it certainly surprised me to hear that GitHub thinks that it's probably okay to regurgitate entire fragments of the training set without preserving the license.
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#26Why is this noteworthy? Who is this person? Am I missing something? I agree that there needs to be talk about licensing and copyright but with so "less/no content" there can be no meaningful discussion other than aimless banter.
They're not particularly popular on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=thelig.ht (except for https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18133450 )
And their only huge project on GitHub is dbxfs, a userspace dropbox filesystem with 687 stars https://github.com/rianhunter?tab=repositories&q=&type=&lang...
I think this is just a post meant to continue the discussion of CoPilot past the first 2 days of news.
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#27Re: I do not agree with Github's use of copyrighted code as training for Copilot
#28While I understand the sentiment wasn’t Copilot trained on code not only hosted on GitHub, but found all over the Internet? Which means hosting your code yourself would not prevent GitHub from using it to train Copilot. That raises an interesting question though - how do you opt out? Is there even a way to do it?
I would like to know this too. I understand that GitHub is a private company and you have to accept their T&C, but surely they aren't allowed to use source code found elsewhere on the internet to train their ML models without asking for permission first unless it's a B2B cooperation such as with Stackoverflow.
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#29Lots of people arguing this guy isn't anybody, but the name seemed sort of familiar to me and my quick googling and looking at his site makes me think he probably has done something that some people use? For example dbxfs seems to have quite a history.
on edit: just saw there was a description of who he is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27724247 as noted I don't know but not sure if it's enough to imply a bad motive of him wanting to get some sort of attention for opposing copilot.
on second edit: huh, seems to be one of those occasions when I have mysteriously offended some people on HN without swearing, joking or being rude.
Re: I do not agree with Github's use of copyrighted code as training for Copilot
#30Does github guarantee that my private repo's content are not being leaked this way in the future?
Yes