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I often hear people I dismiss directly mention cultural marxism. But I have never seen an explanation of what cultural marxism is. Could you enlighten me?
Google reports soaring attrition among Black women
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Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women
#52> The company nearly doubled the number of Black+ people in U.S. leadership to 7.1% last year It’s cool they’ve been able to find qualified people, taking a long time to fill those roles but very nice they are doing it! They will more adequately address additional markets with this talent gravitational pull. What is the percentage of Black+ in the population? The US census doesn’t have a + section, so we can deduce t…
They're using "Black+" as "all Googlers who identify as Black, plus those who identify as Black and any other race". The census does track people identifying with multiple races. Pew, citing the census, says there are ~46.8M (40.7M + 3.7M + 2.4M) Americans who identify as Black (and possibly as something else as well) so about 14%. [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/03/25/the-gro... . (Disclosure: I w…
Yes, the census does track multiple, it just wasn’t clear what the + in this context was referring to
14%, thanks
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#53Latinx(+) is a term I’ve never heard a latino person use in real life. It seems like needless kid gloves and bastardization of language.
I also don't use the term "White British" to describe myself even though it is the demographic I select on surveys. These terms are useful for demographic measurement, not for personal description. Another commenter gives a good explanation – that the + is there to include those who identify as mixed race. Latinx is used to aggregate Latino/Latina identities. These terms are useful with even the smallest amount of in…
There’s an easy word for this: Latin.
Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women
#54The interesting thing is that the top of the funnel is still heavily tilted towards e.g. men. I'm not claiming whether this right or wrong, but this is how it is. Now good luck for your small company to hire minorities. It's extremely hard. I have talked to a recruiting agency recently about getting some engineers on board, and their first question was "Are you only looking for female engineers or are you OK with any genders?"
So as far my experience goes it is pretty difficult to hire non-male engineers if you're on a budget, then you end up with a full male team and then you might end up being accused with bias and discrimination against women. (I've seen this happening.)
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#55I happen to be very familiar with Google's diversity efforts and have many Black and Latinx friends and acquaintances in the company.
Google is one of the most racially inclusive tech companies in the world. It really tries hard to fix historical disparities between races in ways that you don't see in most companies, ranging from very active promotion of minorities to programs dedicated to hiring them. The interview process, while not perfect, also tries to erase bias by forcing gender and racially-neutral terms in interview writeups.
I have my own explanation for the problems the article describes, but I think it would be hard to accurately represent it in a HN comment. This is part of a VERY complex situation rivaling the historical Middle East conflicts in resistance to analysis.
For all of its faults - and it has many - Google is trying much harder the most companies to right past wrongs in our industry regarding racism.
Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
"The data in this section allows people of two or more races to more accurately state their racial background. For example, Black+ includes all Googlers who identify as Black, plus those who identify as Black and any other race." https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/diversity.google/...
Thanks. Is there a hierarchy? Like if I identify as both Black and White, am I counted in Black+ or White+ or is it double counted? Does the employee provide a ranking?
The only other group as obsessed with racial hierarchies as the modern woke left was Nazi Germany. Their published classification would seem to fit just fine at Google.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws#Classifications...
Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women
#57> The company nearly doubled the number of Black+ people in U.S. leadership to 7.1% last year It’s cool they’ve been able to find qualified people, taking a long time to fill those roles but very nice they are doing it! They will more adequately address additional markets with this talent gravitational pull. What is the percentage of Black+ in the population? The US census doesn’t have a + section, so we can deduce t…
Black people are currently less educated as a result of systemic racism than their Asain and white counterparts. That would make achieving 12% leadership particularly difficult, since black people are on average less qualified(on paper, at least) relative to applicants from other races.
it seems the article is wrong and it is much lower %
I was surprised by the 7% metric and found it improbable too
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#58I'm Italian and I speak Spanish and Portuguese relatively fluently. Using the term "Latinx" in my opinion is a form of cultural appropriation, because it imposes a way of using grammatical gender that is typical of the English language (think e.g. about the "singular they") upon neo-latin languages where the perception of grammatical gender is very different. In neo-latin languages such as Italian or Spanish, grammat…
Thank you for saying this. This has been my pet peeve for a while now.
LatinX is not just appropriation, it's cultural imperialism at its finest.
It's the "woke" American cultural hegemony trying to dictate what the Latino community can call itself. It's almost disrespectful to our autonomy, our culture and heritage.
And I say this as someone who's completely pro the gender-neutral language revolution in his native tongue, Spanish.
Latinos can call themselves whatever they want, we don't need the US to start telling us how we need to gender-neutralize our community.
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#59What is Black+ and Latinx+? This is the first time I'm hearing this term and can't find anything about it in the report or online.
"The data in this section allows people of two or more races to more accurately state their racial background. For example, Black+ includes all Googlers who identify as Black, plus those who identify as Black and any other race." https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/diversity.google/...
This is almost as thoughtful as Slack enumerating all user skin tones via 5 integer values.
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#60> some people from underrepresented backgrounds have said they continue to feel unwelcome in the tech industry, and they also remain high in demand elsewhere as companies compete to increase diversity. This is dangerous territory to comment on perhaps, but it seems like many policies which seek to boost individual company population ratios to be significantly higher than the comparable tech-industry ratios are prone…
You're assuming that companies care about the industry wide measure and aren't just competing for the best PR between themselves.