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Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by blueflow »

bko wrote: post #3

What is Black+ and Latinx+? This is the first time I'm hearing this term and can't find anything about it in the report or online.

In the anglosphere (and especially in the US), the ethnic background of a person is given much attention. They have very odd labels with the intent to be more inclusive towards the "corner cases". The 'x' probably stands as a placeholder for 'o' and 'a' to capture both the male and female version.

This seems to be a oddity of the english-speaking cultures and not very relevant to other parts of the world.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by praptak »

bko wrote: post #3

What is Black+ and Latinx+? This is the first time I'm hearing this term and can't find anything about it in the report or online.

"The data in this section allows people of two or more races to more accurately state their racial background. For example, Black+ includes all Googlers who identify as Black, plus those who identify as Black and any other race."

https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/diversity.google/...

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Post by CydeWeys »

curiousgal wrote: post #10
bko wrote: post #3

What is Black+ and Latinx+? This is the first time I'm hearing this term and can't find anything about it in the report or online.

I think it's for being Black + Gay or whatever other minority. Latino is for males, Latina is for females so Latinx is for both and other genders and I guess the + indicates belonging to another minority group. As a non-American this all seems silly but I see the point of it.

Google doesn't track sexual orientation. Black+ means black or black plus some other ethnic minority (Native American, Latino, etc.).

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Post by bko »

cyberlurker wrote: post #5
bko wrote: post #3

What is Black+ and Latinx+? This is the first time I'm hearing this term and can't find anything about it in the report or online.

I want to know also. My guess is Black or Latino of every gender/sexuality.

I don't think so because in their 2019 diversity report they have breakdowns of Asian+, Black+, Latinx+, Native American+ and White+ in an "Intersectional workforce" chart. I think that has to do with gender and sexuality, so those shouldn't be +

Their hires and workforce representation are ~40% Asian+ but I don't think that qualifies as diversity.

https://kstatic.googleusercontent.com/files/93d9a4094693cb78...

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by cyberlurker »

l33t2328 wrote: post #4

Latinx(+) is a term I’ve never heard a latino person use in real life. It seems like needless kid gloves and bastardization of language.

I don’t have data for this, but it is probably language popular in Black and Latino Twitter communities. I’m assuming those not engaged in those communities don’t use the “x” or “+”.

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Post by mastazi »

I'm Italian and I speak Spanish and Portuguese relatively fluently.

Using the term "Latinx" in my opinion is a form of cultural appropriation, because it imposes a way of using grammatical gender that is typical of the English language (think e.g. about the "singular they") upon neo-latin languages where the perception of grammatical gender is very different. In neo-latin languages such as Italian or Spanish, grammatical gender doesn't have the same weight that it has in English, e.g. when I think about "scrivania" or "armadio" (those are the Italian words for "desk" and "closet", the former is feminine and the latter is masculine) I don't imagine in my mind that the desk has feminine features, or that the closet is somehow manly. This is just not how those languages work.

Edit: when I speak English I'm absolutely in favour of things like singular they. I'm just saying that this doesn't work as well in other languages.

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by sct202 »

vmception wrote: post #2

> The company nearly doubled the number of Black+ people in U.S. leadership to 7.1% last year It’s cool they’ve been able to find qualified people, taking a long time to fill those roles but very nice they are doing it! They will more adequately address additional markets with this talent gravitational pull. What is the percentage of Black+ in the population? The US census doesn’t have a + section, so we can deduce t…

Is that a mistake? In the charts on this year's report, the Black Leadership % went from 2.6% to 3.0%. https://diversity.google/annual-report/representation/

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Post by CydeWeys »

l33t2328 wrote: post #4

Latinx(+) is a term I’ve never heard a latino person use in real life. It seems like needless kid gloves and bastardization of language.

They're not for use in real life, they're for statistical aggregation of e.g. someone who is both Black and Latino. It's a way of saying "X plus maybe also other things" rather than "X only".

Re: Google reports soaring attrition among Black women

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Post by l33t2328 »

vmception wrote: post #2

> The company nearly doubled the number of Black+ people in U.S. leadership to 7.1% last year It’s cool they’ve been able to find qualified people, taking a long time to fill those roles but very nice they are doing it! They will more adequately address additional markets with this talent gravitational pull. What is the percentage of Black+ in the population? The US census doesn’t have a + section, so we can deduce t…

Black people are currently less educated as a result of systemic racism than their Asain and white counterparts. That would make achieving 12% leadership particularly difficult, since black people are on average less qualified(on paper, at least) relative to applicants from other races.
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