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Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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First: I am from germany, so, my perspective may differ from other parts of the world... and due to the pandemic, my last meal eaten in an restaurant was in the early beginnig of 2020. But i really never, never encountered a menu via QR Code... why would anyone want this?! If you are going to eat out, then it is (at least with the people i know) considered ab-so-lu-tely rude to even get your phone out (unless you are…

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Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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When they work well, they're really good, but when they work badly, they're _really_ bad. The other week, I went for dinner at a place that had a online ordering system. My experience was as follows... Arrive at the table, scan the QR code No phone signal in the restaurant, so I need to connect to the wifi. Connect to the wifi, get a captive portal Need to put my phone number in to connect to the wifi; there is no si…

Yea; that's a clearly broken system. 2-3 clicks to look at menu is fine. Filling in credit card info in-phone is too far.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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If you have something that can read a QR code you also have something that can magnify text.

I dated a girl with poor eyesight, and absent a digital version her method was the phone flashlight and holding the menu very close to her face. So the physical version was workable, but a pinch to zoom is still more dignified.

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Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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these are everywhere in China now. They use WeChat pay or Alipay :) I haven't been there in almost 3 years so it must have gotten a lot worse now, I doubt I can survive next time I visit.

Plenty of guides on registering burners for this app, no?

how am I suppose to have a burner bank account to use with it? don't forget mobile number are associated with your identity in China

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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post #334

I've had a waiter looking at me puzzled why my phone wasn't able to scan a QR code. I told him already that my camera wasn't able to. But I had to open the camera in front of him. - "Have you tried rotating the camera?" - "Try zooming in and out" - "Why don't you download a QR code app!?" These questions / remarks were placed by him while showing him it really didn't work. When I told him I didn't want to download a…

I seriously hope Google pushes their OEM to include QR code support in the builtin camera app. This should be a default feature. That said, if you want a privacy-friendly QR Code reader app on Android, Binary Eye is my recommendation. GitHub: https://github.com/markusfisch/BinaryEye Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.markusfisch... F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/packages/de.markusfisch.android…

Thanks for the tip on Binary Eye. I've long used Barcode Scanner [0] from f-droid, which appears to be the origin of the "Zebra Crossing" scanner implementation Binary Eye uses. "Barcode Scanner" is now in maintenance mode, so it's good to have a migration path!

Google really does its users a disservice by not simply providing a decent barcode scanner with AOSP. The lack of such a basic utility makes it so easy for users to install spyware in frustration just trying to accomplish the task (sort of like the early "flashlight apps").

I've long wondered why they decided to make this task so hard - it reminds me of their omission of video output on the Pixel phones, but in that case their motivations are clear (they want to force people to use Cast instead) - I seriously can't understand what their rationale is for making QR scanning difficult!

[0] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.google.zxing.client.andr...

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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post #334

I've had a waiter looking at me puzzled why my phone wasn't able to scan a QR code. I told him already that my camera wasn't able to. But I had to open the camera in front of him. - "Have you tried rotating the camera?" - "Try zooming in and out" - "Why don't you download a QR code app!?" These questions / remarks were placed by him while showing him it really didn't work. When I told him I didn't want to download a…

I seriously hope Google pushes their OEM to include QR code support in the builtin camera app. This should be a default feature. That said, if you want a privacy-friendly QR Code reader app on Android, Binary Eye is my recommendation. GitHub: https://github.com/markusfisch/BinaryEye Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.markusfisch... F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/packages/de.markusfisch.android…

> I seriously hope Google pushes their OEM to include QR code support in the builtin camera app.

afaik that is alrady the case

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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> You don't accept cash or credit cards? Goodbye. Where did you encounter such a restaurant? I'd estimate that 99.9% of restaurants accept credit in the US based on the anecdote that I've only had to pay 1 restaurant in cash over the last decade. How would a restaurant refuse both credit and cash? Do they make you pay before eating?

Quite a few places went to online-only payment during the pandemic. And while you can pay online with a credit card, you can’t actually pay by presenting the physical card at point of sale - which is argue counts as “not accepting credit cards” for a significant minority of the population (those without smartphones, primarily)

I don't have any of this stuff set up on my phone either, and I don't tend to have my credit card with me at all times either. So even with a phone I wouldn't be able to pay.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Orders are typically stored anyways?

But not how long you stared at the deserts, or what side of the "give me lobster" button you pressed.

Maybe eventually; I haven't seen a PointOfSale system that worked remotely well enough I thought they could be competent to implement in a useful way.

I tend to not jump to malicious that can be attributed to virtue signaling and/or incompetence.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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post #129

When they work well, they're really good, but when they work badly, they're _really_ bad. The other week, I went for dinner at a place that had a online ordering system. My experience was as follows... Arrive at the table, scan the QR code No phone signal in the restaurant, so I need to connect to the wifi. Connect to the wifi, get a captive portal Need to put my phone number in to connect to the wifi; there is no si…

On the general topic of "technology in restaurants", I've noticed an increasing number of restaurants where the waitstaff uses phones/tablets with some kind of specialized app. This happens often: we start telling them our order, and they have to say "wait a sec.... (taps phone for several seconds) okay what was that?". The "UX" as a patron is pretty bad compared to the waitstaff just whipping out a notepad and scribbling as we order, or better yet memorizing the orders.
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