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Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by NamTaf »

dheera wrote: post #73
snovv_crash wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Normal camera app scans QR codes...

I have to swipe to the rightmost tab in normal camera app and then hit Google Lens and then hover over it while trying to top the tiny tooltip that pops up with my huge finger. Horrible experience. It should just open the web page with zero taps if I point at a QR code in ANY camera mode, even portrait or panorama or movie or whatever the last mode I was on. I shouldn't have to tell it "I'm going to scan a QR code",…

On the iPhone, you literally just open the camera app, point it at the QR code, and a drop-down notification will prompt opening it in the browser. Thus, it is absolutely looking for one always as you describe.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by fomine3 »

cunthorpe wrote: post #49
whimsicalism wrote: post #15

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It would be lovely if we could move closer to the Chinese consumer model re: QR codes in general. Wechat pay/Alipay are incredibly convenient.

Unlocking your phone, opening an app, possibly unlocking that one, tapping to scan, and then accept is NOT more convenient than NFC in your card. Unless your talking about costs. For private free money transfer, the US and many other places have similar if not better methods.

It depends. For who smartphone addict and whom cards are in a wallet in a bag, launching barcode payment is faster than taking a card. Maybe NFC on smartphone is faster.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by dheera »

dragonwriter wrote: post #76
dheera wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh. Why can't we have both? First of all it takes a shitton of steps to scan a QR code if you don't have WeChat. On a default Android device you have to click 7 or 8 times to get into the QR scanner thingy inside Google Lens. I carry a 2nd phone with WeChat and I can scan things in 0 seconds flat, but most people don't have it around here in the US. And then many restaurants' QR menus just redirect you to their webs…

> First of all it takes a shitton of steps to scan a QR code if you don't have WeChat Not really, on most real devices. > On a default Android device you have to click 7 or 8 times to get into the QR scanner thingy inside Google Lens. Perhaps, on stock Android with no manufacturer special apps. But the Samsung, Google, and LG Camera apps, at least, have “point at a QR code and the camera reads it”, so it takes as man…

Hm, I have a Pixel 5 and it most certainly doesn't do that. Nothing happens.

https://i.imgur.com/kjFEwiR.jpg

Then again, starting about 5 weeks ago it also stopped responding to "OK Google" and 3 weeks ago it stopped announcing turn-by-turn directions during GPS navigation so I guess this is the state of tech in 2021 :-/

(Definitely don't want an Apple device though, massive privacy issue for me to use a closed source kernel and that I can't easily introspect and MITM SSL requests on to see what data is being sent about me, I do like Android for the fact that I can more or less much hook into any part of the OS and execute custom code to monitor what the hell apps are doing behind the curtain, and even give them fake-but-realistic sensor data to even further protect my privacy.)

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by cblconfederate »

whymauri wrote: post #51

Depends on the setting, honestly. In a cafe, it's nice to continue working while just ordering on the QR. In some sit down restaurants, it does feel like the service is strictly lower quality with the QR codes. It's hard to convey what exactly you want sometimes, especially since not all these QR apps have a notes section. Allergies? Substitutions? This stuff just gets slightly harder/annoying, albeit not horribly di…

> In a cafe, it's nice to continue working while just ordering on the QR

That doesn't sound like a cafe (or a workplace)

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by cunthorpe »

fomine3 wrote: post #82
cunthorpe wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlocking your phone, opening an app, possibly unlocking that one, tapping to scan, and then accept is NOT more convenient than NFC in your card. Unless your talking about costs. For private free money transfer, the US and many other places have similar if not better methods.

It depends. For who smartphone addict and whom cards are in a wallet in a bag, launching barcode payment is faster than taking a card. Maybe NFC on smartphone is faster.

Indeed on NFC on my phone would be faster if I didn’t have to unlock it with a PIN code due to Face ID and my mask. I miss Touch ID-based Apple Pay.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by atoav »

dragonwriter wrote: post #76
dheera wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh. Why can't we have both? First of all it takes a shitton of steps to scan a QR code if you don't have WeChat. On a default Android device you have to click 7 or 8 times to get into the QR scanner thingy inside Google Lens. I carry a 2nd phone with WeChat and I can scan things in 0 seconds flat, but most people don't have it around here in the US. And then many restaurants' QR menus just redirect you to their webs…

> First of all it takes a shitton of steps to scan a QR code if you don't have WeChat Not really, on most real devices. > On a default Android device you have to click 7 or 8 times to get into the QR scanner thingy inside Google Lens. Perhaps, on stock Android with no manufacturer special apps. But the Samsung, Google, and LG Camera apps, at least, have “point at a QR code and the camera reads it”, so it takes as man…

Firefox Android can scan directly from the URL bar of a new tab.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by RalfWausE »

First: I am from germany, so, my perspective may differ from other parts of the world... and due to the pandemic, my last meal eaten in an restaurant was in the early beginnig of 2020. But i really never, never encountered a menu via QR Code... why would anyone want this?! If you are going to eat out, then it is (at least with the people i know) considered ab-so-lu-tely rude to even get your phone out (unless you are an doctor on call), using it would be a totally no-go. So... this is something i am really glad that it has not washed at our shores... at least not yet.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by samatman »

barbazoo wrote: post #78
cunthorpe wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlocking your phone, opening an app, possibly unlocking that one, tapping to scan, and then accept is NOT more convenient than NFC in your card. Unless your talking about costs. For private free money transfer, the US and many other places have similar if not better methods.

Or NFC in your phone. I can't imagine it being more convenient than that.

NFC on my watch is in fact more convenient than NFC on my phone.

The difference is slight, but real.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by dzhiurgis »

dheera wrote: post #83
dragonwriter wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> First of all it takes a shitton of steps to scan a QR code if you don't have WeChat Not really, on most real devices. > On a default Android device you have to click 7 or 8 times to get into the QR scanner thingy inside Google Lens. Perhaps, on stock Android with no manufacturer special apps. But the Samsung, Google, and LG Camera apps, at least, have “point at a QR code and the camera reads it”, so it takes as man…

Hm, I have a Pixel 5 and it most certainly doesn't do that. Nothing happens. https://i.imgur.com/kjFEwiR.jpg Then again, starting about 5 weeks ago it also stopped responding to "OK Google" and 3 weeks ago it stopped announcing turn-by-turn directions during GPS navigation so I guess this is the state of tech in 2021 :-/ (Definitely don't want an Apple device though, massive privacy issue for me to use a closed sourc…

How do you do MITM SSL when pretty much every secure app use key pinning.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Post by murphyslab »

kelnos wrote: post #55
murphyslab wrote: post #50

As mentioned in the article, having a digital menu allows for a restaurant to adjust its offering in subtle and responsive ways. If a place is out of one ingredient, those items for which it is necessary could be struck. Or one could have "surge pricing" — not desirable as a customer, but certainly for a dining establishment. And one could also collect more information on customers. I'm still inclined toward tangible…

> If a place is out of one ingredient, those items for which it is necessary could be struck. The article actually does mention that exact thing.

Thanks. Not sure how I missed the line in the brackets; I'd only caught the part about seasonal entrees somehow.
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