Eccentrics - how many, how eccentric - are a measure of the cultural sophistication of society. Very sad. "KiwiFarms" sounds like a terrible site; would love to see it destroyed, but those people will find somewhere to aggregate. Looking forward to being as eccentric and vulnerable as possible in my own life :D.
The sort of folk attracted to Kiwi Farms will find somewhere else to aggregate, but that doesn't mean anyone needs to make it easy for them.
Showers always build up mildew, but we still periodically scrub them.
Kiwi Farms is the scum of the earth. Sadly it has many victims.
This terrifies me: > Near survived that. Many wouldn’t, but Near was strong enough to overcome that level of emotional abuse. But Kiwi Farms is relentless. Not to be defeated in their pursuit of utter emotional and psychological destruction, they went after who Near treasured most: their friends. Doxing some, directly harassing others, and even specifically seeking out suicidal people to target. > That broke Near. [.…
Interestingly enough according to Null, the KF operator, Near did try to close that thread, offering $120000 or threathening suicide. It does seem contain pictures that I have no idea how Null could have found it.
> but I've come to accept that the only way to not be bullied or harassed online is to not expose yourself too much online I've been on the internet for almost 30 years. This is something that we've lost in the last decade of people dying to tie their real identity to everything. The wild west internet was actively hostile and you had to be smart about not only what you said, but who you were associating with. This f…
But there's a lot of eccentrics whose life is the internet. To disconnect for them is essentially the same as solitary confinement. Insofar as privacy, compartmentalization, and good opsec, near did all of that, doesn't help when the mob goes after friends and family.
Did he, though? He was famous for being an incredible hacker, and then he conflated this profile with his furry persona and used it to talk about LGBT stuff. It saddens me so much that things have to be this way, that people can't put themselves out there without being (literally) bullied to death, but being pragmatic he could have separated those two "personalities", especially considering one of those is extremely well known in certain circles.
This is the second loss to the emulation scene by the hands of these people.
The incredibly talented author of pcemu - probably the best classic Pc platform emulators, was subjected to a similar campaign of anti trans abuse and harassment (most of it can still be found online) and called it quits.
Why has anybody not commented on the bizarre behavior outlined in this tweet? He stayed on the phone for over an hour, while this person was presumably hanging themselves, without trying to help in any way whatsoever? If this story is true, then they didn't intervene during a key time that person could've been saved. Quite frankly, I am not believing this until there's confirmation.
With some effort, I can sort of understand how one might have that reaction. But the tl;dr is that there's history here that makes it all tragically plausible. More specifically: 1) The persona "Near" was relatively new, following a partial "infosuicide" with respect to their previous pseudonym (which involved a degree of detachment from singular achievements in SNES emulation and preservation benefiting projects ran…
>marcan is, in the grand scheme of things, uncommonly credible
Ad hominem never works. Not disagreeing with your other points, but we should elevate discourse to arguments and reason.
With some effort, I can sort of understand how one might have that reaction. But the tl;dr is that there's history here that makes it all tragically plausible. More specifically: 1) The persona "Near" was relatively new, following a partial "infosuicide" with respect to their previous pseudonym (which involved a degree of detachment from singular achievements in SNES emulation and preservation benefiting projects ran…
Ok, but how do you prove something Kiwi Farms did actually caused it? From what I've read of linked forums, there was no activity regarding Near. Last activity was on page 13, dated April or May 2021, basically saying "Any news on Near?" How do you pin this on KF and not individuals assocates with the site?
I also would like to know more about this, if anyone could shed light on it I think it could be appropriate to understand the circumstances.
What happened here is Cancel Culture. It's on the other side. But it's the same. The left have driven people to suicide, the left attack people for past posts, the left attack employees and friends. And the left should know better, it's hard to know how to move forward while the left, which for so long had the higher ground, also do this. And by left I mean the people who don't condemn lynch mobs when they think it's…
Not even touching on the false equivalency, this has to be one of the most tone-deaf and upsetting comments I've seen on HN.
Bringing up "false equivalency" around driving people to suicide is also pretty upsetting.
What Kiwifarms has for extremes Twitter makes up for public acceptance.
The person who wrote the note said they had coffee with Near in Akihabara on June 9th. That would imply they both are in Japan, so none of that thinking would apply here.
> That would imply they both are in Japan … in a world without international travel it would.
If you're going to be snarky, at least be intelligent.
The probability of two people living in the same place given that they had coffee together is ludicrously higher than the probability of them living in separate countries.
> That would imply they both are in Japan … in a world without international travel it would.
If you're going to be snarky, at least be intelligent. The probability of two people living in the same place given that they had coffee together is ludicrously higher than the probability of them living in separate countries.
I did not intend for my reply to be interpreted as snarky. I'm sorry.
I tend to be needlessly pedantic and often do a poor job communicating in writing the non-verbal cues I'd couple with my reply in face-to-face conversation to signal that my intent for it is purely informational.
If you're going to be snarky, at least be intelligent. The probability of two people living in the same place given that they had coffee together is ludicrously higher than the probability of them living in separate countries.
I did not intend for my reply to be interpreted as snarky. I'm sorry. I tend to be needlessly pedantic and often do a poor job communicating in writing the non-verbal cues I'd couple with my reply in face-to-face conversation to signal that my intent for it is purely informational.
If you didn't imply a bad thing then it's good, have a nice day :D