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Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by tekknik »

adsfasdfadsf222 wrote: post #334
brandonmenc wrote: post #313

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> the food tends to be highly processed and low in nutrients This type of food is - coincidentally - always extremely high in calories. But the relationship is orthogonal. You can make processed non-nutritious food that is low in calories, and you can make healthy food that is high in calories. The former happens rarely.

this is wat I eat, high calory, cheap, and very nutritious: breakfast: 6 raw eggs lemon juice (1 lemon, squeezed) 378 calories in total, of which 227 are fat and 144 protein. just enough sugar to help you digest it without bloat. awesome anabolic effects from the eggs. lunch: 6 raw eggs 200ml whole unhomogenised milk (raw if possible) similar effect but even more anabolic dinner: 200-300g of fresh steak (beef) cooked…

a dozen eggs a day and you’re getting what, 6x daily cholesterol intake?

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Post by tekknik »

pembrook wrote: post #363
SuoDuanDao wrote: post #270

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Yes, proteins and carbs reduce feelings of hunger. But nutrient deficiencies cause food cravings. That's why people who eat high-calorie meals with few vitamins and minerals tend to overeat, they satiate their hunger but the cravings remain.

If that were true, you could solve your cravings by taking a simple multivitamin. Which just isn’t the case unless you’re critically deficient in something (which, most 1st world people aren’t). Eating fast food 3 meals a day but taking a multivitamin will change nothing about your feelings of hunger. What’s more likely, is fast food doesn’t make you feel full because its low in protein (the most expensive ingredient…

But since when are multivitamins the same as the real thing? Study after study show that multivitamins don’t do much if anything so your idea here is flawed.

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Post by jonnycomputer »

atom_arranger wrote: post #299
jonnycomputer wrote: post #140

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What does this have to do with GMOs though?

The idea being that maybe our selective breeding has already had a negative affect in terms of nutrient content. So if we’ve messed things up with selective breeding we could be similarly messing things up with genetic modification.

The drop in magnesium levels is related primarily to depletion in over-worked farmland.

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Post by SuoDuanDao »

pembrook wrote: post #363
SuoDuanDao wrote: post #270

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Yes, proteins and carbs reduce feelings of hunger. But nutrient deficiencies cause food cravings. That's why people who eat high-calorie meals with few vitamins and minerals tend to overeat, they satiate their hunger but the cravings remain.

If that were true, you could solve your cravings by taking a simple multivitamin. Which just isn’t the case unless you’re critically deficient in something (which, most 1st world people aren’t). Eating fast food 3 meals a day but taking a multivitamin will change nothing about your feelings of hunger. What’s more likely, is fast food doesn’t make you feel full because its low in protein (the most expensive ingredient…

You can't model a complex biological system as a simple flow-balancing problem of a few substances that have no effect on one another.

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Post by dr_dshiv »

QuarterReptile wrote: post #251
dr_dshiv wrote: post #116

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Why regulate when you can market? If I knew that a brand of zucchini had high mineral content and flavor, I'd buy it at a premium

Sounds like a good way to have every milk container say "rBST free, from cows raised without hormones!" Which could also be stated "farmed in accordance with California law."

Yeah, in this case, I'd rather have the former... Since I'd assume the latter? Maybe that's me.

And, to be clear— I don't want to be dismissive of the importance of govt regulation! It's just that working out the marketing opportunities can happen much faster than effective regulation.

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Post by tacocataco »

ArkanExplorer wrote: post #86
viburnum wrote: post #28

I know geeks love Norman Borlaug, but there was a catch: the new high-yield varieties are dependent on fertilizers made from fossil fuels. These plants grow fast and have more carbs and less of everything else. There needs to be a second Green Revolution, this time sustainable.

Or, just have 2 billion people on the planet, instead of 8.

Why do people always arrive at "cull the herd" before "our way of life should change"?

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Post by tacocataco »

nate_meurer wrote: post #353
mpfundstein wrote: post #345

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sometimes a pizza or a coke is not a bad thing you know. if you put all the bad stuff away, there might just come the time when your kids have enough of your rules and rebel and then begin to compensate and overuse those stuff. been there, done that

Yeah, this is an excellent point. You're absolutely right, oppressive rules can definitely backfire. We thought this through early on, and we seem to have successfully threaded the needle. My kids are now teen and tween-aged, with no signs of rebellion (so far!) The sugary soda pop rule is fucking law-- completely set in stone. Believe it or not, neither of my kids has ever consumed a significant amount of sugary sod…

Is the pizza sauce to sugary? Or is it the processed meats?

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Post by [deleted] »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #237
fasteo wrote: post #93

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You may want to add theanine to the mix in a 2:1 mag:theanine ratio. It will improve you anxiety even further

Just a warning to anyone on anti-seizure or mood stabilizing meds. Theanine can seriously fuck you up because it alters glutamate channels that your medication may also be altering.

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Post by kayodelycaon »

fasteo wrote: post #367
kayodelycaon wrote: post #237

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Just a warning to anyone on anti-seizure or mood stabilizing meds. Theanine can seriously fuck you up because it alters glutamate channels that your medication may also be altering.

Mind sharing references for this ?

Personal experience. The easiest source to read is Wikipedia. Look at the mechanisms of action.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theanine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticonvulsant

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Post by kadoban »

guerrilla wrote: post #331
kadoban wrote: post #135

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Is lack of change in complex systems safe? I'd guess it's more that complex systems are inherently risky.

In such arguments, it is assumed that the current sate of things is already acceptable. That's exactly why people don't want to change them.

The current state of things isn't very stable though, especially when there's already a bunch of other parts of it we're intentionally or unintentionally modifying.
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