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Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by rini17 »

epistasis wrote: post #320
rini17 wrote: post #88

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I wouldn't put all the blame on him. Wouldn't be first or last time the narrowly efficiency-minded nerds and businessmen took a good idea and optimized it into a monster.

The supposed alternative, changing distribution of food rather than production of food, was a political decision that was fraught with problems. Any nation without food security soon finds that it can lose all of its other security too. So for a lot of the criticism of the Green Revolution, which comes from a place of wanting a different political structure, but not yet being sure what that structure is, nerds like m…

I don't understand your political argument at all.

Example of what I mean from Wikipedia: "Borlaug continually advocated increasing crop yields as a means to curb deforestation." This did not happen as the overproduction ended up as cattle feed and biofuel. And it isn't Borlaug's fault.

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Post by rorykoehler »

pembrook wrote: post #233
nerdponx wrote: post #204

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Anecdotally, this has been my personal experience. I have gone through phases of my life where I ate a lot of junk food. I would feel constantly hungry during those phases, until I ate something nutritious, green and easily-digestible, like steamed broccoli or green peas.

This doesn’t make any scientific sense. Study after study has shown that protein and complex carbs are what reduces feelings of hunger, not vegetables. This makes sense when you consider most green vegetables like broccoli are 90% water. A meat like chicken, after cooking is only about 60% water. So if you eat 400g of broccoli vs 400g of chicken, the one that will make you feel more full is obviously the protein. Wha…

Far satiates much more than carbs

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Post by pembrook »

SuoDuanDao wrote: post #270
pembrook wrote: post #233

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This doesn’t make any scientific sense. Study after study has shown that protein and complex carbs are what reduces feelings of hunger, not vegetables. This makes sense when you consider most green vegetables like broccoli are 90% water. A meat like chicken, after cooking is only about 60% water. So if you eat 400g of broccoli vs 400g of chicken, the one that will make you feel more full is obviously the protein. Wha…

Yes, proteins and carbs reduce feelings of hunger. But nutrient deficiencies cause food cravings. That's why people who eat high-calorie meals with few vitamins and minerals tend to overeat, they satiate their hunger but the cravings remain.

If that were true, you could solve your cravings by taking a simple multivitamin. Which just isn’t the case unless you’re critically deficient in something (which, most 1st world people aren’t). Eating fast food 3 meals a day but taking a multivitamin will change nothing about your feelings of hunger.

What’s more likely, is fast food doesn’t make you feel full because its low in protein (the most expensive ingredient typically, so fast food skimps on it) and high in simple carbs.

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Post by adsfasdfadsf222 »

jjeaff wrote: post #344
adsfasdfadsf222 wrote: post #334

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this is wat I eat, high calory, cheap, and very nutritious: breakfast: 6 raw eggs lemon juice (1 lemon, squeezed) 378 calories in total, of which 227 are fat and 144 protein. just enough sugar to help you digest it without bloat. awesome anabolic effects from the eggs. lunch: 6 raw eggs 200ml whole unhomogenised milk (raw if possible) similar effect but even more anabolic dinner: 200-300g of fresh steak (beef) cooked…

Where do you get your eggs? Or is the salmonella part of the weight control?

i get them from a warehouse in asia where they're left in the yard in the sun all day in 30c heat. there is no problem whatsoever

salmonella is a problem of industrial farming

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Post by newsclues »

jbotz wrote: post #199
newsclues wrote: post #66

Funny, that there is a big push to have plant based meat replacements and promotions of vegetarian or vegan diets in the media.

It stands to reason that meat is probably also becoming less nutritious, since the animals are being raised on those same less-nutritious plants. Especially with respect to micro-nutrients and trace minerals... being short on these causes subtle problems which get worse as you age, but the meat animals don't get very old anyway, so these deficiencies stay hidden.

Don’t meat animals concentrate nutrients and toxins?

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Post by DiabloD3 »

fasteo wrote: post #93
wincy wrote: post #26

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Interesting. I recently started using Magnesium Glycinate as a supplement and I feel it truly changed my life, not exaggerating. I’ve suffered from chronic general anxiety for most of my teens and adult life. Magnesium has completely cleared this up, things I thought were just part of my personality (being anxious and other associated things) were actually due to a chronic magnesium deficiency. I just have to make su…

You may want to add theanine to the mix in a 2:1 mag:theanine ratio. It will improve you anxiety even further

I, too, wish to chime in here. I've seen people that are absolute wrecks unless they're on theanine, either alone or as an adjunct therapy. I suspect a surprisingly large number of people just have entirely screwed up glutamate/glutamine cycles, and theanine is an amino analogue of them (makes more sense when you realize the name is l-gamma-glutamylthelyamide).

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Post by fasteo »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #237
fasteo wrote: post #93

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You may want to add theanine to the mix in a 2:1 mag:theanine ratio. It will improve you anxiety even further

Just a warning to anyone on anti-seizure or mood stabilizing meds. Theanine can seriously fuck you up because it alters glutamate channels that your medication may also be altering.

Mind sharing references for this ?

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Post by ArkanExplorer »

rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #351
mypalmike wrote: post #280

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Such obvious truths are unfortunately incompatible with individual instincts to procreate.

Research who pollute/consume to most. One average American has the impact of many Africans, so some may have many children if they continue not to ruin the planet. And please compare the impact of top 10% richest US households vs the bottom 50%. Quality > quantity.

An average American consumes more resources than the average African, but when measured against the science/economic output they create, the average American is still multiples of times more efficient.

Its also much easier to transition Western societies to renewable energy and EVs, which wipes out a lot of carbon emissions for example.

Additionally, much of Africa (20%) is reliant on food aid from the West, so its not fair to assign all of the resource use to the people who are feeding them.

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Post by throwaway210222 »

ArkanExplorer wrote: post #368
rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #351

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Research who pollute/consume to most. One average American has the impact of many Africans, so some may have many children if they continue not to ruin the planet. And please compare the impact of top 10% richest US households vs the bottom 50%. Quality > quantity.

An average American consumes more resources than the average African, but when measured against the science/economic output they create, the average American is still multiples of times more efficient. Its also much easier to transition Western societies to renewable energy and EVs, which wipes out a lot of carbon emissions for example. Additionally, much of Africa (20%) is reliant on food aid from the West, so its n…

> Additionally, much of Africa (20%) is reliant on food aid from the West, so its not fair to assign all of the resource use to the people who are feeding them.

Its going then to come as a shock to your world-view to learn that the UK, a nuclear power, with a permanent seat at the UN, and a card-carrying member of the West, had to receive food aid as recently as December 2020 from the UNICEF to feed their children [1].

So go turn your aircon off.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-55348047

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Post by tekknik »

jjeaff wrote: post #346
stuaxo wrote: post #238

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Completely unscientific - but when you see programs on TV about people that eat a lot, the food tends to be highly processed and low in nutrients, I've been wondering the same thing.

That's because you can't get super fat without either a lot of hard work or by eating calorie dense, processed foods. Most foods found in nature will fill you up long before you can eat enough to gain hundreds of pounds.

You don’t need to gain hundreds of pounds to be obese, 30 pounds will put you over the line just the same.
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