The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

Post by ttt0 » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:31 AM UTC

wolverine876 wrote: post #145

tartoran wrote: post #70

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Yes, I am aware of that and do care for justice but am afraid to talk abour it IRL to be honest. To be publically acused of antisemitism for being critical to Israel could be a real nightmare Im not ready to go through. I am no antisemitist, on the contrary, some of my favorite people are jewish. Am I a coward? I think so but I have a family and want to hold onto my job. Here on HN I am not afraid to comment because…

> I am aware of that and do care for justice but am afraid to talk abour it IRL to be honest. To be publically acused of antisemitism for being critical to Israel could be a real nightmare Im not ready to go through. ... Am I a coward? I think so but I have a family and want to hold onto my job. Here on HN I am not afraid to comment because this account is not tied to my real identity. You're not a coward; you're hum…

Post by jdjdbxbfn » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:54 AM UTC

wolverine876 wrote: post #130

let_me_ask_this wrote: post #79

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In that case Israel should follow New Zealand's example and allow all Palestinians to become citizens, with full rights, stop being an ethnostate for Jews, stop with the racism and start behaving like the progressive country they pretend to be.

> allow all Palestinians to become citizens, with full rights, stop being an ethnostate for Jews If that happened, then Palestinians would outnumber Jews and could dominate the country democratically. I can understand the potential for discrimination. That's why the two state solution is often considered the only just solution: Both groups each have a country in which they are the majority. The Israeli right rejects…

Post by guerrilla » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 11:33 AM UTC

wolverine876 wrote: post #214

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I think you're being naive because the military always has that power, regardless of what people want to pretend. What would make it legitmate is that the people agreed to it ahead of time.

> the military always has that power, regardless of what people want to pretend Maybe in your fantasies, but not in advanced democracies. Nobody would follow those orders; there's no evidence of it ever happening, in centuries. Technically, the people of Washington DC have the power to overthrow the government if they all rush the seats of power at the same time, but really they don't.

Post by notsureaboutpg » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 11:43 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #43

werber wrote: post #20

As an American Jew who grew up with a distorted and racist world view in regard to Palestine this just feels like history repeating itself. The troubles that face Israelis have always been amplified over those of Palestinians in my experience. That control of the narrative led me to be actively racist for most of my life while thinking I was not and also morally superior. This kind of censorship has a body count, and…

As an American who moved here from a Muslim country let me assure you Muslims are socialized to feel the same way about Jews. Took me a long time to see it. In high school I obviously supported Palestine and thought Israel was a settler colony (all of it, not just Gaza). Then I realized: wait why do I even care? I’m from 3,000 miles away in Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, people don’t even care about Bangladeshis being he…

Post by rayiner » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 1:19 PM UTC

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And it comes down to it: the logic of progressivism inherently demands the end of Israel because it can’t conscience the notion of an ethnostate.

End of Israel _as an entho-state_, which is not necessarily end of Israel as a state. If Nazi Germany could turn into regular Germany, one of the most progressive nations on Earth, so can anyone else.