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Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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post #203

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Yes, because they believe that they need to be on the side of Israel to satisfy the conditions of their apocalyptic fables.

Religious flamewar will get you banned here. Please don't post like this, regardless of whose religion you have a problem with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Happy to see hn is moderated against blasphemy, how progressive!

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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In that case Israel should follow New Zealand's example and allow all Palestinians to become citizens, with full rights, stop being an ethnostate for Jews, stop with the racism and start behaving like the progressive country they pretend to be.

> allow all Palestinians to become citizens, with full rights, stop being an ethnostate for Jews If that happened, then Palestinians would outnumber Jews and could dominate the country democratically. I can understand the potential for discrimination. That's why the two state solution is often considered the only just solution: Both groups each have a country in which they are the majority. The Israeli right rejects…

> The Israeli right rejects the two state solution, and clearly they reject being a minority, so that only leaves oppression of Palestinians (which is awful and unjust, to avoid any doubt).

Actually I'm fairly sure it could have happened at some point if it hadn't been loudly rejected by Arabs.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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post #52

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It is hard to say Israel has less right to the land it took over than say New Zealand. The main difference is how long ago the settling happened.

In that case Israel should follow New Zealand's example and allow all Palestinians to become citizens, with full rights, stop being an ethnostate for Jews, stop with the racism and start behaving like the progressive country they pretend to be.

> In that case Israel should follow New Zealand's example and allow all Palestinians to become citizens, with full rights, stop being an ethnostate for Jews,

This would have been somewhat reasonable if it hadn't been for the fact that Jews have been driven out from neighboring countries in larger number than Arabs from Israel.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. - Einstein ... via https://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup

All depends on what is meant by the word which all-too-often denotes an all-inclusive label for a cluster of characteristics chosen according to the political inclination of the user.

Wikipedia says "Nationalism holds that each nation should govern itself, free from outside interference (self-determination), that a nation is a natural and ideal basis for a polity and that the nation is the only rightful source of political power (popular sovereignty)".

Which other particular source of political power would you suggest for the US or any other country ?

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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post #228

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And it comes down to it: the logic of progressivism inherently demands the end of Israel because it can’t conscience the notion of an ethnostate.

End of Israel _as an entho-state_, which is not necessarily end of Israel as a state. If Nazi Germany could turn into regular Germany, one of the most progressive nations on Earth, so can anyone else.

> If Nazi Germany could turn into regular Germany,

It didn’t, really; it was destroyed, and the destroyers erected states of their own design on its ruins.

Israel hasn’t picked fights with the right people for it to end up the way Nazi Germany did if it loses.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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As an American Jew who grew up with a distorted and racist world view in regard to Palestine this just feels like history repeating itself. The troubles that face Israelis have always been amplified over those of Palestinians in my experience. That control of the narrative led me to be actively racist for most of my life while thinking I was not and also morally superior. This kind of censorship has a body count, and…

Americans are more prone to this kind of thing because they're already used to overriding settler-colonial propaganda influencing their mindset; Zionist propaganda is just another flavor.

Jews and christians were there before Islam even existed and Arabs invade. Talking about propaganda, indeed the craziest of the world is Pallywood because it's so blunt, using takkia like this will give good points to go to heaven faster.

I'm from Algeria so I could go on all day long and even complain about the Arabs of FLN who stripped my grand parents from their lands.

But instead, I'd rather complain about how silly a lot of people are, eating pallywood propaganda without a single doubt, I mean, it's not like this article was showing the posts in question at all, the mere partial description they made of it are tailored to correspond the propaganda, really is there someone to believe that using the word "resist" online is enough to get an Israeli arrest?

> I will not succumb to the “peaceful solution,”

Yeah, maybe they were arrested for incitation because of the part that was before the "resist" line pointed by this article. So that's some nice takkia right there, all this to get some good points, and y'all fall for it like school kids, that's so cute!

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Perhaps they ought to set up their constitution to have a military pledged to the maintenance of a purely secular state that will overthrow any overtly religious government, no matter the electoral margins they earned when getting installed.

Or they could do what Lebanon does and have some mandatory representation from all ethnic groups in all important public institutions. There are definitely ways to make this work, if there is a true willingness to live in peace.

What are you talking about? Arabs ARE represented in the Knesset.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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post #164

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Most recently, bombing the offices of multiple news outlets during a conflict comes to mind. But what made me change my mind was actively seeking out Palestinians to talk to one on one after a close friend told me I was racist. This isn’t particularly profound or anything, but a now very close friend of mine talked to me about how she could barely see her family in Palestine and that I could get a free trip and citiz…

How do you feel about Gaza launching 4000+ rockets at Israeli population centers indiscriminately ?

Clearly the Gazans need missile guidance systems to get their kill count down to Israel's levels.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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post #20

As an American Jew who grew up with a distorted and racist world view in regard to Palestine this just feels like history repeating itself. The troubles that face Israelis have always been amplified over those of Palestinians in my experience. That control of the narrative led me to be actively racist for most of my life while thinking I was not and also morally superior. This kind of censorship has a body count, and…

Good step, but keep in mind you will have to stay in repentance all your life.
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