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Re: I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media

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Post by dang »

edgyquant wrote: post #5
president wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN should just ban controversial topics. Every time, these threads just devolve into mass flagging and downvoting and many times its usually one-sided depending on the majority view. Not interesting and not fun at all.

Political posts are banned unless they involve technology

That's not accurate. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and these past explanations:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so....

Re: I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media

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Post by yehosef »

jgb1984 wrote: post #52

Israel is an apartheid state. Stealing land and declaring a "jewish state" is no less criminal or insane than what isis / islamic state tried to do. Anti-zionism is not equal to anti-semitism. Just like I can criticize the USA without hating Americans, or criticize Iran without discriminating against muslims.

>Stealing land and declaring a "jewish state" is no less criminal or insane than what isis / islamic state tried to do.

The most famous commentary on the Torah (Rashi) begins when the question of why the Torah begins with the story of Creation and not with the first law the Jews were given

Rashi says: "For should the peoples of the world say to Israel, “You are robbers, because you took by force the lands of the seven nations of Canaan”, Israel may reply to them, “All the earth belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He; He created it and gave it to whom He pleased. When He willed He gave it to them, and when He willed He took it from them and gave it to us” https://www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Genesis.1.1?lang=en

Re: I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media

#73

Post by dang »

ireallydontcar3 wrote: post #58
truth_ wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> carpet bombing Gaza indiscriminately It's just their words against theirs. I don't know what happened to the anti-Arab chanters, in my opinion, they should be sued (and arrested when appropriate). And "Israelis" did not shout those. They were from an ultra nationalist faction. It's not Israelis vs. Palestinians. It's Hamas wanting to kill every Jew it can, and Israel attacking Hamas to save its citizens, and then i…

I think the main question from op was this- it completely rips apart all the propaganda you’ve been writing throughout this thread. > How do you explain the ongoing eviction, backed by IDF enforcement, of Sheikh Jarrah? If Palestinians have equal rights and Israel has stopped occupying Gaza and encroaching on Gazan land, why are there constant clashes between settlers and Gazans in the West Bank? The fact that you ig…

We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media

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Post by edgyquant »

dang wrote: post #71
edgyquant wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Political posts are banned unless they involve technology

That's not accurate. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and these past explanations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... .

From your link

>Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.

So while maybe it isn’t “unless they involve technology” is is still claimed in your guidelines that they are mostly banned.

Re: I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media

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Post by dang »

edgyquant wrote: post #74
dang wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not accurate. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and these past explanations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... .

From your link >Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. So while maybe it isn’t “unless they involve technology” is is still claimed in your guidelines that they are mostly banned.

If you familiarize yourself with the past explanations that I just linked to, you'll see that this is explained in detail. If, after that, you have a question that isn't answered there, I'd be happy to give it a try.

Re: I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media

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Post by ireallydontcar3 »

dang wrote: post #73
ireallydontcar3 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the main question from op was this- it completely rips apart all the propaganda you’ve been writing throughout this thread. > How do you explain the ongoing eviction, backed by IDF enforcement, of Sheikh Jarrah? If Palestinians have equal rights and Israel has stopped occupying Gaza and encroaching on Gazan land, why are there constant clashes between settlers and Gazans in the West Bank? The fact that you ig…

We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Banned which account? And I’m curious why some of these “political” posts break site guidelines but others do not. I see political discussions on Crimea and China. Are the guidelines specific to Israel and Palestinians?

Re: I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media

#77

Post by dang »

ireallydontcar3 wrote: post #76
dang wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Banned which account? And I’m curious why some of these “political” posts break site guidelines but others do not. I see political discussions on Crimea and China. Are the guidelines specific to Israel and Palestinians?

"This account" means "the account I'm currently replying to". No, of course the guidelines aren't specific that way. Not all political posts are off topic, but everyone needs to follow the site guidelines, and the rules apply more, not less, as a topic gets more divisive: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

That does not mean that every post that breaks the site guidelines gets moderated, though, for the simple reason that we don't see everything that gets posted here. There's far too much for us to read it all. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. People can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

Re: I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media

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Post by threatofrain »

president wrote: post #4
Causality1 wrote: post #3

One of the most chilling maps I've ever seen is the one of Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory. It looks like a cell using lysosomes to kill prey. https://i.imgur.com/v1lNHEY.jpg @dang Care to weigh in on this submission? Seems to be a lot of flagging/vouching going on.

HN should just ban controversial topics. Every time, these threads just devolve into mass flagging and downvoting and many times its usually one-sided depending on the majority view. Not interesting and not fun at all.

I've already seen something interesting just in the primary post content, notwithstanding any comments.

Re: I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media

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Post by ireallydontcar3 »

dang wrote: post #77
ireallydontcar3 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Banned which account? And I’m curious why some of these “political” posts break site guidelines but others do not. I see political discussions on Crimea and China. Are the guidelines specific to Israel and Palestinians?

"This account" means "the account I'm currently replying to". No, of course the guidelines aren't specific that way. Not all political posts are off topic, but everyone needs to follow the site guidelines, and the rules apply more, not less, as a topic gets more divisive: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . That does not mean that every post that breaks the site guidelines gets moderated, though, for t…

To be clear, you can go ahead and ban whatever accounts you’d like.

This thread is currently trending on the front page, and it’s as political as this post.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27646686

But that thread hasn’t been flagged, nor are you going out of your way to ban posters in that thread.

But the account you replied to was mine, and you’re banning me because the Israel Palestine issue seems to be censured by Hacker News.

You can just admit that instead of hiding behind site policies and guidelines. “We won’t allow criticism of Israel.” If you want to be a cog for Israeli propaganda, that’s fine. Why hide behind site guidelines and not fess to it? It’s pretty spineless and cowardly, no?

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