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Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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“I made it worse for users but it is making me rich” is peak Silicon Valley.

"dark patterns work" surprised pikachu face Did they think people use dark patterns for the fun of it...?

Yeah, it's a business, not a charity.

People don't start businesses because it's cute and fun. Reddit needs to turn a profit or demonstrate ridiculous growth, and it seems to be working.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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They make it very difficult to be a contributor as well, a lot of subreddits focus on showcasing/bragging rather than discussions now. I've had a DIY question I've posted to the three biggest home improvement/diy subreddits and it was deleted from one, downvoted to oblivion in another one without replies and downvoted to 0 in the last one with the only comment proposing a solution so overkill grotesque that I didn't…

Reddit wants pictures to make a bottomless well of content. Your question is a speed bump causes people to stop scrolling.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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I just stay away from Reddit links as much as possible. The user experience is atrocious and I agree with everything the article says. There is another point that the article missed (or perhaps never encountered because the author primarily focuses on the mobile experience). In desktop Reddit posts are actually modal dialogs (don't believe me? Open a Reddit post in your desktop browser). I have this bad habit of clic…

> I have this bad habit of clicking my mouse on the whitespace of any web page I visit (I guess I am the only one). That makes two of us. I agree but don't stay away, I use old.reddit w/reddit enhancement suite, doesn't fix incognito for me as I don't let addons run there, but using containers on firefox instead helps.

Three. I’ve stumbled on that too, Internet has become so unfriendly.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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HN is too niche to milk for profitability like Reddit. Only relatively technical people hang out here and will probably move to, or setup, an alternative if HN gets sold out.

"too niche...Only relatively technical people hang out here" Sounds like early reddit.

As long as HN doesnt focus on pics, gifs and TikTok garbage, it's probably safe from those who have a 1 millisecond attention span.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Reddit has become another VC invested company where crippling features, dark patterns on forced "adoption" and dark "growth" hacks du jours are the norms. I'm a very early and long term user, and I slowly moved away after "the" investment. HN on the other hand is still safe, as the huge success of YC and their aim of gathering talent and readers gives more financial freedom. What if some investor now invests in HN, g…

HN is too niche to milk for profitability like Reddit. Only relatively technical people hang out here and will probably move to, or setup, an alternative if HN gets sold out.

If I could buy equity in HN I would do it in a heartbeat.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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post #363

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I’m confused how many people don’t seem to realize this has nothing to do with experiencing the site. The App gets a ton of personal data they can’t get on a website. That’s all this is. Data collection. They need you to install the App so they can access your advertising ID, better link your IP and location to your account, get you to click permission allowance, etc. Shooting their own experience in the foot is an a…

I wonder how to look at Apple's decision to tighten privacy rules in this light. I guess companies will be less motivated to force their users to use an iOS app. So, a potential loss for Apple; then again, a potential win for Apple users... so overall a win for Apple?

As an Apple user, I can zero percent complain about their actions even if they’re 1/2 real and 1/2 marketing. At least Apple is saying the right things and even that is a win right now.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Yes and: I just don't understand reddit's UI. I'd probably use the subreddit's I join a lot more if their forum features were more like HN & lobsters. > ...it does a full page reload, now showing you only that subthread! Some times expands in place, some times link to new page. Since I can't predict what will happen, I rarely drill down into threads. I lurk on r/awww and the like. (Mental therapy during the apocolyps…

> Some times expands in place, some times link to new page Yes, you're right actually, and in a way it's worse than always loading a new page, simply because it's so unpredictable. I mean... who the hell thinks this stuff up? Hadn't heard of the Reddit Enhancement Suite - if it drops some of the bullshit, I'll happily give it a try. As an aside, I also started out on CompuServe, towards the late 90s! I was on dialup…

One gray beard to another:

If it's any consolation, I have always hated HTML and adjacent. Initially, it was such a huge leap backwards, like giving yourself a lobotomy. I just didn't get the appeal. As a better gopher, absolutely, sign me up. But the next hypertext & multimedia platform? HA! We already had awesome multimedia and hypertext. I expected the Next Thing, not some punk's brain dead IMG tag, blink, and marque scroll.

Shows what I know.

My very first "web" project, in 1998, was dual publishing product catalogs to CD-ROM and online. What the kids today call "static site generators." (Wrestling with Netscape App Server and JRunner cemented my hatred of the web.) I treated URLs as just another UNC; pathnames are pathnames, right? I just didn't grasp the impact domain names would have.

I eventually concluded that the magic sauce was URLs, built on top of DNS, begating "the web".

That took me a really long time to appreciate. Its failings -- broken links, one-way links, link rot -- were also its strengths.

I've been run over time and again by "worse is better." So many times, that I can't help but conclude I'm impaired somehow. Like I really thought Jini, JXTA, tuplespaces, grid computing were going to transform everything. Instead we got REST, serverless, and JavaScript. Like going to a fancy restaurant, ordering a medium rare porterhouse steak, and being served whatever they scrapped off the rat infested dirt floor. And then when you protest, even so much as raise an eyebrow, you're the idiot.

HTTP isn't so bad. I really wish I had thought about HTML and HTTP separately, from the beginning. I actually kinda like HTTP 1.1 & 2.0. (The successors continue to befuddle me.)

Thanks for listening. I'll be out front, yelling at kids and dogs.

PS- I was totally right about Java. Too bad Sun let Captain IMG Tag sabotage it on the client.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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post #341

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I always think that by building products that treat the consumer like an enemy to be conquered will eventually result in someone building a better product and stealing the market. It never happens though. I wonder if some of the tech like Cloudflare Workers will eventually allow someone to build competing products that crush the existing platforms. IMO it’s dangerous (business wise) to get addicted to revenue that co…

How are cloudflare workers relevant? The tech of reddit has always been pretty simple to replicate. I think the code was open sourced at some point? I remember creating a reddit-clone for France a long time ago but bringing users in didn’t work. It was not a tech problem.

> How are cloudflare workers relevant?

$5 / month gets me the same scaling capabilities as someone paying $50000 / month. I can build stuff with a low cost of operating since most stuff is never going to get massively popular, but if I get lucky and win the popularity lotto I can scale with a credit card instead of an architectural change.

AWS, Azure, etc. are similar, but they get expensive really fast. The traditional cloud platforms have a "hump" in the pricing where you're too small to get discounts, but too big to afford it.

So basically what I'm saying is that as compute / scaling improve to the point where you don't have to sell your soul to venture capitalists to pay for everything, we might see a lot more "fair value" minded entrepreneurs start to succeed.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Does anyone else want to rant about Reddit’s AMP pages that show up on Google? Oh I could go on about it… The managers at Reddit, in their infinite wisdom, decided that the preferred experience of a Google user searching for content on reddit should redirected to their wonky app. And if they don’t have the app, they should be punished with modals upon modals. “Reddit looks better in the app!” Oh, you disagree? Well p…

You can avoid this by using old.Reddit.com, which doesn’t nag about an app and avoids all the real offensive UI design decisions.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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change the url from www to old.reddit.com and you can bypass most of the bullshit. Question is how long it'll last.

Thanks, this does seem to work! It's a PITA to change the URL every time I click a Google search result that hits Reddit, but it's better than dealing with all the bullshit Reddit throws at me.

I use a firefox extension called Redirector to regex-rewrite some URLs like this.
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