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Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by insulanus »

diminish wrote: post #143
tbrake wrote: post #54

I've long thought about making a thread like this so I'm happy to see it. Fed up with this actively user-hostile web experience to try and drive people to the app. My main gripe is definitely expanding comments - > First of all, only the top comment will be shown. Then you can tap view more which will load another two. But you cannot open all the comments. Because the "create an account to continue" toast pictured is…

Reddit has become another VC invested company where crippling features, dark patterns on forced "adoption" and dark "growth" hacks du jours are the norms. I'm a very early and long term user, and I slowly moved away after "the" investment. HN on the other hand is still safe, as the huge success of YC and their aim of gathering talent and readers gives more financial freedom. What if some investor now invests in HN, g…

The value of HN to YCombinator is keeping a large community of plugged-in and knowledgeable people on-tap. If there were any hint of commercializing HN, it would be clear as day that Ycombinator was now run by idiots. Everyone would flee faster than a jackrabbit from a pack of wolves.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by Qwertious »

zozbot234 wrote: post #230
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Reddit mobile web experience is so obviously bad that I can only assume it's intentional. There must be some huge incentive for Reddit to push users toward the mobile app. Most likely, the app allows for higher or more accurate monthly active user counts and enables more targeted advertising, both of which are critical to increasing advertising revenues. Reddit is in a difficult spot because they're mostly an ad-…

> There must be some huge incentive for Reddit to push users toward the mobile app. From what we hear, the app isn't even that well designed. It seems that many users are still using unofficial clients because the app can feel heavy and sluggish, with only a barely acceptable UX.

RedReader user here, can confirm. I don't even know what half of the complaints in the link are talking about, as they're largely problems with the "official" mobile experience.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by the_snooze »

dorfsmay wrote: post #328
throwaway284534 wrote: post #82

Does anyone else want to rant about Reddit’s AMP pages that show up on Google? Oh I could go on about it… The managers at Reddit, in their infinite wisdom, decided that the preferred experience of a Google user searching for content on reddit should redirected to their wonky app. And if they don’t have the app, they should be punished with modals upon modals. “Reddit looks better in the app!” Oh, you disagree? Well p…

Have you tried https://old.reddit.com ?

Shhh! Keep it quiet, or else reddit might remember that exists and kill it.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by rgovostes »

tbrake wrote: post #54

I've long thought about making a thread like this so I'm happy to see it. Fed up with this actively user-hostile web experience to try and drive people to the app. My main gripe is definitely expanding comments - > First of all, only the top comment will be shown. Then you can tap view more which will load another two. But you cannot open all the comments. Because the "create an account to continue" toast pictured is…

> Meaning not only can I not expand any more comments, but I can't even go back see other un-expanded comments.

I'm pretty certain it used to work and they intentionally broke it so that you cannot close the modal popup.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by swores »

steelframe wrote: post #311
neither_color wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>complete capitulation to censorship at a corporate level. sigh I would still use Reddit and put up with all the bad UI design and dark patterns if it wasn't for the censorship. I miss the pre-2016 election reddit when it was still full of pedantic types who would have long debates in comment threads where they would break each other's arguments down line by line. I wasn't strongly in favor of one belief or another,…

I once spent an entire weekend collecting and aggregating data to create a bunch of charts that revealed some really interesting statistics for a subreddit and earned about 100 karma. I made a one-line "zinger" comment on some random thread in r/pics and pulled in 1,800 karma. That's when I realized I was casting pearl before swine by spending real effort on Reddit, and I should instead be directing my efforts on rea…

The concept of lowest common denominator isn't really exclusive to Reddit, communicating through any medium there will always be more people able / willing to understand (or just to spend the time getting through) something short and simple than something long and complex.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by sedatk »

diminish wrote: post #143
tbrake wrote: post #54

I've long thought about making a thread like this so I'm happy to see it. Fed up with this actively user-hostile web experience to try and drive people to the app. My main gripe is definitely expanding comments - > First of all, only the top comment will be shown. Then you can tap view more which will load another two. But you cannot open all the comments. Because the "create an account to continue" toast pictured is…

Reddit has become another VC invested company where crippling features, dark patterns on forced "adoption" and dark "growth" hacks du jours are the norms. I'm a very early and long term user, and I slowly moved away after "the" investment. HN on the other hand is still safe, as the huge success of YC and their aim of gathering talent and readers gives more financial freedom. What if some investor now invests in HN, g…

> has become VC infested company

FTFY.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by dole »

ishiz wrote: post #101
throwaway284534 wrote: post #82

Does anyone else want to rant about Reddit’s AMP pages that show up on Google? Oh I could go on about it… The managers at Reddit, in their infinite wisdom, decided that the preferred experience of a Google user searching for content on reddit should redirected to their wonky app. And if they don’t have the app, they should be punished with modals upon modals. “Reddit looks better in the app!” Oh, you disagree? Well p…

There is also a bug with the AMP pages such that the submission dates for the threads are often wrong. For example you're searching for threads that have been posted in the last month, some of the results will say something like "7 days ago" until you click and see it is actually 5 years old.

Just recently they changed the submission date display format from “7 months” to “7m”, not like that’s ambiguous at all.

One of my favorites is how it’ll load a basic profile with just your name, 0 karma and no subs when the site seems to be overloaded.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by baby »

wting wrote: post #207

I was the EM for Reddit's Growth team around this time. I am responsible for / contributed to a few features like the current signup flow, AMP pages, push notifications, email digests, app download interstitials, etc. There was a new product lead who joined with many good ideas, but some of them were dark patterns that I heavily protested. After a few months of this, it was obvious that I was going to be reigned in o…

True. And reddit is now a much worse place than most people remember. I remember r/atheism being in the defaults and not a FP full of pictures and brainless memes :(

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by SSLy »

dillondoyle wrote: post #270
lowkey wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a product manager, here is what I would do if I was in Steve’s shoes. Instead of employing dark patterns that take advantage of casual user’s trust, I would actually listen to users and evolve the site in the direction users are asking for. Reddit just killed their Santa Program, this year will be it’s last. The Secret Santa program was amazingly popular but perhaps complicated to manage so instead of improving it…

What's worse with Secret Santa is they didn't have to take it over in the first place. Community / active users ran it. Which is what (feeling like used to) makes Reddit special. AND they aren't giving the keys to the exchange back to the original creator... Now starting over in a new user run sub but it is super sh*ty behavior. They tried the marketplace idea too with reddit gold etc. wasn't that also originally a c…

>gold - wasn't that also originally a co-opted user created joke like silver?

From my recollection gold came first, silver was a image macro meme to be pasted as a poor man's gold, and then the expanded rewards system came.

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