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Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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The new Apple TV 4K is a absolutely better than any of the high end android tv devices. I’ve been through them all (at considerable expense) and am now totally happy on the new apple tv

Would use of an Android phone have any cause for frustration with an Apple TV? I'd assume not but I've never used one.

If it’s like the older Apple TV’s no. It comes with its own remote, the only iPhone integration is that your phone becomes an extra remote should the original be lost or broken

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I hated FireTV exactly because of the ads. Now I am using Roku comes with the TV. Roku has ad too, but not overwhelming. In the future, maybe the only choice is no-brand Android TV box/ stick which has ads removed.

PiHole to remove those Roku ads! I have PiHole running on a five dollar Pi Zero. Just sits on a shelf doing its thing on all devices connected to network.

> running on a five dollar Pi Zero.

While technically accurate, you also need a $10 SD card, a $3 usb cable, and a $5-10 power brick, so you’re really looking at a $25 solution here.

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The new Apple TV 4K is a absolutely better than any of the high end android tv devices. I’ve been through them all (at considerable expense) and am now totally happy on the new apple tv

Would use of an Android phone have any cause for frustration with an Apple TV? I'd assume not but I've never used one.

You won't be able to use your phone as a remote, or to enter passwords, but other than that, there would be no frustration.

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People bought devices that did not show the ads. Now Google has forced those ads onto those devices. So, hindsight being 20/20, this is yet another abuse.

You're not wrong, but what should be the narrative to any future devices like this is: "They change it after selling it to you for the worse, don't buy their products." When that becomes the reputation the problem will solve itself when they stop selling them from bad reputation.

And how much billions is the marketing budget to get that narrative successful ? /s

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The new Apple TV 4K is a absolutely better than any of the high end android tv devices. I’ve been through them all (at considerable expense) and am now totally happy on the new apple tv

It's nearly perfect now that they've fixed the remote, and absolutely the device to beat at the moment.

Most of the "channel" apps are also very nice, the exception being Amazon's clunky Prime Video app. The Plex client is quite good too.

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You perform research to find televisions that either do not have internet capability, or you unscrew your back panel and remove said internet capability. The fact that you need to ask online how to buy a dumb tv, instead of being able to do so yourself, is depressing.

Someone already gave me a useful tip, so I’m glad I asked! What’s the point of commenting if not to learn new things? We also all benefit from having a conversation about alternatives to Android TV on this thread.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you got some tips, and here's another site with some options: https://pointerclicker.com/best-dumb-tv/

My comment to your post was just a general observation that I find it depressing we are at this point in our culture where people need to ask for help to find electronics which do not surveil them.

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Question to HN users: I have a dumb display attached to an nvidia shield. The Shield is nice: It's powerful enough, runs decent version of the common apps I care about (netflix, plex, youtube, spotify are the ones I use), and the remote is minimalistic and nice to use.

Let's say I want to opt out of Google for this. What the hell do I do? I do have a Windows PC attached to the TV, for gaming, but if I wanted to run the apps above they wouldn't be optimized for TV input, they'd be cumbersome to use. Attaching a Linux box isn't going to work particularly well for gaming either.

Seriously, what are the alternatives there?

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I did this for ages. It sucks. Maintenance, broken things all the time, bugs, ugh. I just torrent stuff on my Mac now and use a USB stick to ship it to my dumb TV.

Dumb TV can play video from USB? That's pretty smart. The Mac can't act as a mass storage device for the TV? That's a shame.

That’s all it can do. Has no internet connection on it.

I don’t want the two to meet. That’s where the hell starts.

I use this because the HDCP implementation on the TV is broken so it won’t play anything with any streaming boxes. I’m not throwing a perfectly good TV in the trash because of a copyright restriction.

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The new Apple TV 4K is a absolutely better than any of the high end android tv devices. I’ve been through them all (at considerable expense) and am now totally happy on the new apple tv

Would use of an Android phone have any cause for frustration with an Apple TV? I'd assume not but I've never used one.

I guess you would not be able to stream your display to the Apple TV, and you would not be able to use your phone for keyboard input, and probably more. Just get an iPhone already!

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History teaches us that HN readers are generally quite caring of these sort of intrusions into their previous "just right" setups and don't tend to just let it ride.

Yep, 16 new libreelec installs will appear, and thousands of google tvs will be sold in the meantime.

That is kind of a twist on the old "nobody ever got fired for using IBM" idea regarding marketplace saturation: "nobody ever complained about Google"?
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