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Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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I hated FireTV exactly because of the ads. Now I am using Roku comes with the TV. Roku has ad too, but not overwhelming. In the future, maybe the only choice is no-brand Android TV box/ stick which has ads removed.

PiHole to remove those Roku ads! I have PiHole running on a five dollar Pi Zero. Just sits on a shelf doing its thing on all devices connected to network.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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The way to combat this is not to buy products that have this and then complain about them. The companies that make them do not care, they have already gotten your money. The way to combat this is to not buy products that have this in the first place. edit: a lot of comments are saying that the ads were added later, after purchase. This doesn't change my opinion at all, because people still bought products that have t…

I’d love to buy a “dumb” tv. How do I do that?

The words you’re looking for are “hospitality” and “commercial display”

The hospitality versions will be cheaper than commercial (commercial displays are designed to last longer with continuous operation).

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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Interesting but why now? Based on the dates, this change came in April? Or did people update old reviews but keep the old timestamp?

I posted it just now bc I just came across this today (have an nvidia shield but haven't had a chance to use it in a few months)

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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The way to combat this is not to buy products that have this and then complain about them. The companies that make them do not care, they have already gotten your money. The way to combat this is to not buy products that have this in the first place. edit: a lot of comments are saying that the ads were added later, after purchase. This doesn't change my opinion at all, because people still bought products that have t…

That doesn't make sense as this was added additionally, so when people purchased their devices the ads were not present. To quote one review verbatim: > I purchased two premium-priced Nvidia Shield TV's and loved them until yesterday. That was the day Google began forcing huge dominating ads on the home screen. These ads are for content in services that I haven't eve subscribed to or installed, they're totally irrele…

Does the Nvidea Shield TV come with this Google controlled "Android TV Home" as the home screen / launcher?

Seems like a miss on Nvidea's part to let someone else control the default experience, if so.

Edit: It appears so. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/support/shield-tv/introd...

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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People still bought products that had the capability of ads being inserted retroactively. If you don't want the potential of ads being inserted into hardware you purchase, then don't purchase hardware that allows it. It is very straightforward.

So you're future victim blaming now? People need to be able to predict all possible eventualities and are to blame for any future changes to a system?

If you buy a product that someone can remotely control, then you are setting yourself up for a world of hurt. Whether that is advertising or having all your data wiped (like is currently the case for those Western Digital Live Book hard drives).

'Future blaming' is an asinine term. If you point out to someone that, well, they shouldn't be surprised if their home got robbed because they only had a screen door, you could make a similar reply that you're "future blaming" those people because they needed to "to predict all possible eventualities and are to blame for any future changes to a system?" Ridiculous.

People need to take accountability for their purchasing decisions. You buy a product with a gaping front door in it that allows the vendor or whoever else to push whatever crap into the product? Then that is on you.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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My parents have an Android TV and often have to reboot it to for the internet connection to work. Makes all the streaming apps a pain to use.

I don't think that's specific to android tho. I got a Xiaomi one explicitly because they have good WiFi chips. This was one of my main worries, and I never had issues so far

How do you find out which ones have good WiFi chips?

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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Just buy a cheap smart one and attach a device that fully controls it via hmdi. My bedroom TV boots to Kodi and the original remote is attached as well as a small keyboard. Basically the best solution I found

I’d be worried that it was still phoning home even when I was on a different input. It’s a good solution if you have to have a smart tv though.

How would it do that? You think they’re shipping SIM cards in the TV?

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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That doesn't make sense as this was added additionally, so when people purchased their devices the ads were not present. To quote one review verbatim: > I purchased two premium-priced Nvidia Shield TV's and loved them until yesterday. That was the day Google began forcing huge dominating ads on the home screen. These ads are for content in services that I haven't eve subscribed to or installed, they're totally irrele…

People still bought products that had the capability of ads being inserted retroactively. If you don't want the potential of ads being inserted into hardware you purchase, then don't purchase hardware that allows it. It is very straightforward.

It is absolutely not straightforward and you are arguing a black-or-white fallacy.

As was discussed ad nauseum on HN before, in threads about "smart" vs "dumb" TVs, telling consumers to "not buy smart devices" is putting an disproportionate burden on them, given the market conditions as well as the actual consumer expectations and desires.

As ads are not required for the functioning of smart devices, compared to for example, electricity being required for a TV to work, or an internet connection being required for movie streaming to work, it is fallacious to suggest that consumers must avoid such smart devices to avoid unwanted behavior being forced upon them at a later date.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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The new Apple TV 4K is a absolutely better than any of the high end android tv devices. I’ve been through them all (at considerable expense) and am now totally happy on the new apple tv

Would use of an Android phone have any cause for frustration with an Apple TV? I'd assume not but I've never used one.
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