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Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by bostonsre »

dt3ft wrote: post #8
1337biz wrote: post #4

Are there any plausible theories why this stuff is getting released right now? It looks like there is no immediate reason for action. And no real reason why they wouldn't have gone on for another decade denying it.

Our government expects visitors soon and this was a step towards preparing the public to what is about to come? xD

Something like that sounds plausible. If they knew for sure, I doubt they would want to dump all evidence at once. Would be incredibly interesting to see how the world would change if that happened tho.

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by hirundo »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #26
hirundo wrote: post #18

Next: A conspiracy theory that the government is covering up the fact that UFOs don't exist.

Contrary to popular opinion, UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object, not Aliens From Another Galaxy Visiting Us For Some Damn Reason. Objects that fly and are not readily identifiable totally exist and are a concern for the military as they may be aircraft from another country violating our air space on a spy mission or some such.

That's what the government wants you to believe.

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by trasz »

pueblito wrote: post #3

> In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed radio frequency (RF) energy associated with UAP sightings. Does this mean the objects emit RF energy of some sort?

I'm guessing it's just their way of saying "we have RWR recordings of the radio waves, but since it's SIGINT we won't be giving you any details for another 40 years."

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by tailspin2019 »

ALittleLight wrote: post #30

This seems awfully brief and doesn't have much detail. The tittle says it's a "preliminary" report. Is this the expected UAP report or just a preliminary document about it? I would want to see summary statistics for each reported incident and descriptions of the most compelling phenomenon. This document raises a lot of questions and answers few. The document says they have 21 reports of UAP that "appear to demonstrat…

> I'm also not really impressed by their idea to use "advanced algorithms" and "machine learning". Are UFO encounters so frequent we need to resort to big data?

I had that same thought - on first read this report seems to contain summary analysis of 144 UAP incidents. Not the sort of numbers that immediately make me think "I need ML to process those!"

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by s5300 »

1337biz wrote: post #4

Are there any plausible theories why this stuff is getting released right now? It looks like there is no immediate reason for action. And no real reason why they wouldn't have gone on for another decade denying it.

I saw not too far back that the Pentagon/other places got absolutely fucking swamped by FOIA requests, to the point it was seriously bogging man-power down internally, when COVID lockdowns started because people had nothing better to do.

To make them all stop, they basically said "okay, we're going to release these reports in some determined length of time"

Sounds fairly reasonable.

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by colechristensen »

238475235243 wrote: post #25

The only thing they left out was swamp gas as a possible explanation (RIP Hynek). Seems like another whitewash, "it can't possibly be happening" report. If you spend some serious effort on this and stay away from the crazies you'll come to the opposite conclusion of this report. A good starting point is Vallee's books.

I don't know about Vallee, but after being briefly in the defense industry, reading much, and having some experience with aerospace everything seems to fit very well into one of three categories

1) known US aircraft activity either simply misinterpreted or kept secret from the public or even most of the military apparatus, sometimes strongly denied either as a way to disseminate vague information to adversaries or misinformation

2) foreign or personal aircraft either known or unknown to the US.

3) rare weather phenomena, hallucinations, optical phenomena, or other miscellaneous things which might be rare but with mundane explanations

The thing to notice is cameras have become much more prevalent and much higher resolution, but "UFOs" in pictures haven't. The only things that aren't obviously something understandable are still fuzzy dots on screens despite screens and cameras getting enormously better.

Just look at this https://media.gvwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/28154540... and tell me that if you saw that you wouldn't think it was a spaceship. It was kept super secret for a quite a long time and surely was the source of plenty of UFO reports.

I'm not convinced or even particularly suspicious that anything that "isn't what it seems" is anything more than mundane.

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by trasz »

staunch wrote: post #15

> "Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical objects given that a majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared, electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation." Yeah, if we could just get a copy of that data real quick, that'd be greeeaat.

This. Even the ones which are already public, like the FLIR recordings, would be much more useful if they also released tapes from other MFDs ("screens" inside the cockpit) that were also recorded in that moment, eg the radar display.

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by egfx »

staunch wrote: post #15

> "Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical objects given that a majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared, electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation." Yeah, if we could just get a copy of that data real quick, that'd be greeeaat.

Yes because projections have been developed to emit infrared and projections can also be detected on radar.

[1] https://sites.fas.harvard.edu/~scidemos/LightOptics/InfraRed...

[2] https://www.google.com/books/edition/Advances_in_Radar_Techn...

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by DoreenMichele »

A reminder that UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. This is just a report on what the military saw in the air and could not identify.

It neither confirms nor denies popular ideas about aliens visiting earth.

In most cases, you can guess these are probably aircraft from other countries. In some cases, they may be experimental aircraft being developed in secret by some organization or other.

I am someone who thinks there likely is alien activity on earth, but government reports about unidentified flying objects aren't about efforts to prove or disprove that aliens from elsewhere visit earth. They are data on sightings in US air space of things we could not identify. That's all they are.

If you want to extrapolate "It's aliens!" Coolios. If you want to insist "Aliens don't exist! This is nonsense!" Equally coolios.

"Aliens" isn't why the US government tracks this stuff. National security is the goal and nothing more than that should be inferred in terms of what the US government "believes" in.

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