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Re: AWS BugBust

#41

Post by stavros »

salil999 wrote: post #14
harikb wrote: post #10

For those who are wondering the rewards aren’t worth it… this is not Amazon asking for oss contribution to their AWS source code. This is for private companies to offer bug fest to their own employees / target audience. > customers can set up private AWS BugBust virtual events Why should the jacket be sponsored by Amazon? I don’t get it.

Why would they need AWS to do so? Engineers in companies don't know every line of code in their product - many of them are siloed in their own teams. A team can easily just dedicate an hour or two a week and do their own bug bash, right?

But thus way the labor is free™.

Re: AWS BugBust

#42

Post by ElijahLynn »

I looked for the compelling point of this and go to the point where I could win an expenses paid trip (doesn't say "all expenses" fwiw) to AWS Reinvent and was really unmotivated to read further. Feels like a scammy way to get free engineering work.

Re: AWS BugBust

#43

Post by barbazoo »

WYepQ4dNnG wrote: post #31

Maybe a little off-topic. You wanna solve or avoid millions bugs? Instead of hiring people capable of memorizing how to invert binary trees and similar bs, companies when interviewing and hiring should focus on real hands-on experience, should value developers who empower and demostrate best practices and good code craftsmanship. Ask candidates to write and review real production code. It is just unbelievable how low…

> You can just imagine how bad it gets for any other random company out there.

Or how surprisingly solid developers can be at non FAANG places. Not everyone aspires to work at Amazon.

Re: AWS BugBust

#44

Post by theli0nheart »

jedberg wrote: post #38
mdaniel wrote: post #13

When I read the announcement, I thought they were donating the use of CodeGuru to projects (which I presumed would be limited to open source ones) to (1) improve the code hygiene of the world (2) gather more data for their machine learning models (3) publicity for CodeGuru But as best I can tell, this is the worst of all worlds: I have to already have an AWS account to both create the competition and also to point Co…

The companies that put up the contest benefits. For a lot of people at a lot of companies, a trip to re:invent is a huge prize. If your job is to fix bugs anyway, now your company just incentivized you to do it more and in your off time to win that prize. Also, the bug buster benefits if they get up high on the leaderboard, because job recruiters will most likely use the leaderboard for lead gen. If you're looking to…

> Also, the bug buster benefits if they get up high on the leaderboard, because job recruiters will most likely use the leaderboard for lead gen. If you're looking to make a job move, moving up on the leaderboard will help.

I already get plenty of recruiting inbound without having to donate my time to fix bugs for Internet Points.

What you're saying is that this is a worthy use of time for people because they'll maybe move up in the leaderboards which then might lead recruiters to reach out to them.

And after all that, you have to do a phone screen, technical phone interview, a full-day onsite, plus whatever other hoops you'll be made to jump through to change jobs.

Yeah, no. Hard pass. Seems like a huge waste of developers' time.

Re: AWS BugBust

#45

Post by dvtrn »

WYepQ4dNnG wrote: post #31

Maybe a little off-topic. You wanna solve or avoid millions bugs? Instead of hiring people capable of memorizing how to invert binary trees and similar bs, companies when interviewing and hiring should focus on real hands-on experience, should value developers who empower and demostrate best practices and good code craftsmanship. Ask candidates to write and review real production code. It is just unbelievable how low…

Ask candidates to write and review real production code.

Presumably you pay candidates for this, right, if we're talking about "real production code" and valuing developers?

Re: AWS BugBust

#46

Post by jedberg »

theli0nheart wrote: post #44
jedberg wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The companies that put up the contest benefits. For a lot of people at a lot of companies, a trip to re:invent is a huge prize. If your job is to fix bugs anyway, now your company just incentivized you to do it more and in your off time to win that prize. Also, the bug buster benefits if they get up high on the leaderboard, because job recruiters will most likely use the leaderboard for lead gen. If you're looking to…

> Also, the bug buster benefits if they get up high on the leaderboard, because job recruiters will most likely use the leaderboard for lead gen. If you're looking to make a job move, moving up on the leaderboard will help. I already get plenty of recruiting inbound without having to donate my time to fix bugs for Internet Points. What you're saying is that this is a worthy use of time for people because they'll mayb…

> I already get plenty of recruiting inbound without having to donate my time to fix bugs for Internet Points.

You're not the target audience.

And also, you wouldn't be donating your time. The whole point is that a company puts up a contest for their own employees, who are presumably getting paid to participate.

Re: AWS BugBust

#47

Post by pyjug »

jedberg wrote: post #38
mdaniel wrote: post #13

When I read the announcement, I thought they were donating the use of CodeGuru to projects (which I presumed would be limited to open source ones) to (1) improve the code hygiene of the world (2) gather more data for their machine learning models (3) publicity for CodeGuru But as best I can tell, this is the worst of all worlds: I have to already have an AWS account to both create the competition and also to point Co…

The companies that put up the contest benefits. For a lot of people at a lot of companies, a trip to re:invent is a huge prize. If your job is to fix bugs anyway, now your company just incentivized you to do it more and in your off time to win that prize. Also, the bug buster benefits if they get up high on the leaderboard, because job recruiters will most likely use the leaderboard for lead gen. If you're looking to…

> The companies that put up the contest benefits

> if you’re looking to make a job move,…

Why would companies allow their best developers to be poached? Unless of course there’s a way for companies to keep their developer scores private…

Re: AWS BugBust

#48

Post by rantwasp »

holtalanm wrote: post #36
pyjug wrote: post #33

LOL. Developers are so gullible. It would be cute if it weren’t so tragic. They’re giving out t shirts and jackets for 10s of thousands of $ worth of work and we’re lapping it up. Vogels openly said it helps AWS customers reduce “costs”, he’s not even trying to hide it

Most of the comments are completely dunking on Amazon for this, though.

when you dunk 100 times you get a free tshirt!

Re: AWS BugBust

#49

Post by pyjug »

jedberg wrote: post #38
mdaniel wrote: post #13

When I read the announcement, I thought they were donating the use of CodeGuru to projects (which I presumed would be limited to open source ones) to (1) improve the code hygiene of the world (2) gather more data for their machine learning models (3) publicity for CodeGuru But as best I can tell, this is the worst of all worlds: I have to already have an AWS account to both create the competition and also to point Co…

The companies that put up the contest benefits. For a lot of people at a lot of companies, a trip to re:invent is a huge prize. If your job is to fix bugs anyway, now your company just incentivized you to do it more and in your off time to win that prize. Also, the bug buster benefits if they get up high on the leaderboard, because job recruiters will most likely use the leaderboard for lead gen. If you're looking to…

> For a lot of people at a lot of companies, a trip to re:invent is a huge prize

Only for cheapo companies. Companies should (and do) _pay_ their devs to attend re:invent. I get your point though. For naive devs, it’s like getting to go to a concert. But it’s quite cynical for AWS to exploit this

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