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Re: AWS BugBust

#31

Post by WYepQ4dNnG »

Maybe a little off-topic.

You wanna solve or avoid millions bugs? Instead of hiring people capable of memorizing how to invert binary trees and similar bs, companies when interviewing and hiring should focus on real hands-on experience, should value developers who empower and demostrate best practices and good code craftsmanship.

Ask candidates to write and review real production code.

It is just unbelievable how low is set the bar when it comes to writing high quality code even at so called FAANG. You can just imagine how bad it gets for any other random company out there.

Re: AWS BugBust

#32

Post by garblegarble »

Robadob wrote: post #27
garblegarble wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the prizes are yet more corporate trash that don't need to exist What I can't wrap my head around is that the top of the FAQ says that 1 Point has an estimated Dollar Equivalent of $769, and for 100 Points you get a t-shirt. As a "prize" in exchange for saving $76,900 I'd be expecting a car at the low-end...

The $769 is referring to the estimated money saved by fixing bugs, rather than the trade in value of the points. > For information on how points are awarded, see the Official Rules. Actual savings may vary. Section 5 of the official rules document states approximate retail value of the prizes as; reInvent:$4000, Resin Trophy:$60, Hooded Sweatshirt:$27, tshirt:$12 https://d1.awsstatic.com/product-marketing/bugbust/AWS…

That's exactly my point - Amazon have given that figure as their estimated savings, so either that's an insanely overinflated figure, or my point stands and if you save one of their clients several tens of thousands of dollars they'll give you a "prize" of a tshirt. They probably spent more money producing that video than they will pay for all the t-shirts they'll give out.

$77,000 for a t-shirt. $1,500,000 for a jacket. If you're saving somebody that much money who cares whether Amazon gives you a t-shirt? So either have prizes comensurate with the alleged savings involved or don't insult people with such low value prizes.

Re: AWS BugBust

#33

Post by pyjug »

LOL. Developers are so gullible. It would be cute if it weren’t so tragic. They’re giving out t shirts and jackets for 10s of thousands of $ worth of work and we’re lapping it up. Vogels openly said it helps AWS customers reduce “costs”, he’s not even trying to hide it

Re: AWS BugBust

#34

Post by rattray »

rplnt wrote: post #26
garblegarble wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the prizes are yet more corporate trash that don't need to exist What I can't wrap my head around is that the top of the FAQ says that 1 Point has an estimated Dollar Equivalent of $769, and for 100 Points you get a t-shirt. As a "prize" in exchange for saving $76,900 I'd be expecting a car at the low-end...

It might be that work worth the equivalent of $769 is required to get a point?

Right - they're saying that if the work of a point is worth $769 to a company, then that's the amount they should get paid as a developer.

Even if Amazon took a $269 cut from each point, I'd expect to get paid $50k for doing 100 points. But instead you yet a $12 t-shirt.

Re: AWS BugBust

#35

Post by vips7L »

k__ wrote: post #8

Half-OT: What do you use for JavaScript/TypeScript? (CodeGuru only works for Java and Python) I looked into Snyk Code, but it's mad expensive.

If you want free sonarlint is good for every language: https://www.sonarlint.org/

They also have their paid service SonarQube which is really good. https://www.sonarqube.org/

Re: AWS BugBust

#36

Post by holtalanm »

pyjug wrote: post #33

LOL. Developers are so gullible. It would be cute if it weren’t so tragic. They’re giving out t shirts and jackets for 10s of thousands of $ worth of work and we’re lapping it up. Vogels openly said it helps AWS customers reduce “costs”, he’s not even trying to hide it

Most of the comments are completely dunking on Amazon for this, though.

Re: AWS BugBust

#37

Post by jacobsenscott »

I can't read this and the video is unwatchable. Are they saying they want a bunch of people to fix static linter warnings in python code? Who's code? Your code? Open source code? Amazon's code?

Re: AWS BugBust

#38

Post by jedberg »

mdaniel wrote: post #13

When I read the announcement, I thought they were donating the use of CodeGuru to projects (which I presumed would be limited to open source ones) to (1) improve the code hygiene of the world (2) gather more data for their machine learning models (3) publicity for CodeGuru But as best I can tell, this is the worst of all worlds: I have to already have an AWS account to both create the competition and also to point Co…

The companies that put up the contest benefits. For a lot of people at a lot of companies, a trip to re:invent is a huge prize. If your job is to fix bugs anyway, now your company just incentivized you to do it more and in your off time to win that prize.

Also, the bug buster benefits if they get up high on the leaderboard, because job recruiters will most likely use the leaderboard for lead gen. If you're looking to make a job move, moving up on the leaderboard will help.

Re: AWS BugBust

#39

Post by mdaniel »

pokoleo wrote: post #28
mdaniel wrote: post #13

When I read the announcement, I thought they were donating the use of CodeGuru to projects (which I presumed would be limited to open source ones) to (1) improve the code hygiene of the world (2) gather more data for their machine learning models (3) publicity for CodeGuru But as best I can tell, this is the worst of all worlds: I have to already have an AWS account to both create the competition and also to point Co…

I think you mean BugBust, not BugSnag.

Yes, sorry, I was on my phone :-(
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