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WD My Book users wake up to find their data deleted

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Re: WD My Book users wake up to find their data deleted

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Post by kadoban »

roel_v wrote: post #453
smoe wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion the difference should be whether something is the first generation of a product or an iteration. Basically somehow using the Lindy effect to determine how long it should be supported. E.g. if I had bought the very first generation of the iPhone it would have been much more out of couriosity, not long time usage expectation. But I think there now has been enough development on it, that I should be able t…

OK, well now come up with a formula that says (from a series of objective and not-readily-gameable characteristics) for a random electrical/electronic device (or, if you want to separate the two, provide a way to do so - is a 1980's microwave with an 8-bit controller for the timer 'electronics' or 'electrical'?) how long the warranty should be, how long it should be 'supported' (for a definition of 'supported') and h…

"If it was easy, we would have done it" is just not true.

Companies have little to no incentive and consumers have little to no power. Barring some very unlikely industry-wide agreement, it requires legislation.

(Note I'm not replying to your first paragraph at all, only the last)

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Post by tpxl »

mrspuratic wrote: post #474
oblio wrote: post #448

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point wasn't clear. 7 years is quite a long time. And as far as I know in general they can't prevent after market parts being produced. So car manufacturers are forced to allow their cars to be repaired, not necessarily with their parts, a long time after they've stopped selling them. IT stuff should start following the same lifecycle.

7 years is a relatively long time for a product, but not necessarily for a car. The average car age at scrap time is 13.9 years (UK stats). [Wildly off topic ranting about the balance of embodied versus emitted CO2 for the typical ICE vehicle omitted. Clue: 10 years is about the break-even point.]

> Wildly off topic ranting about the balance of embodied versus emitted CO2 for the typical ICE vehicle omitted. Clue: 10 years is about the break-even point

Do you mean it takes about 10 years for the car to emit the same amount of co2 that was used in producing it?

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Post by flyinghamster »

I've said it before and I'll say it again: consumer tech sucks. From routers and NASes with back doors to lighting systems and thermostats that "need" someone else's computer to function (as though their onboard CPU isn't more powerful than yesteryear's PCs), "caveat emptor" couldn't possibly be more true.

Even though I enjoy building my own systems, it's a crying shame that I have to build my own whether I want to or not, and even Micro Center doesn't carry server motherboards with IPMI and a BMC.

Re: WD My Book users wake up to find their data deleted

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Post by Sebb767 »

monsieurbanana wrote: post #230
bigiain wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Redundant Array of Inexpensive Cloud Storage Providers is not a backup!!!" (Can we make RAICSP a thing? Or do multi-cloud solution vendors already has a snappy marketing term for storing everything on all of S3, Azure Blob, and Google Storage at once?)

It's not? Why?

It's probably not a bad idea, but if they're all linked to a single e-mail account/provider, things might turn sour quickly.

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Post by jacobmischka »

shash wrote: post #183

There’s a difference between MyBook and MyBook Live. The Live version (this article) is ONLY accessible over the cloud service for some reason. Even if you’re on the same LAN there’s no SMB, FTP or anything else. Only the cloud connection. The MyBook is a more normal NAS. Bought one of these for my dad few years ago without noticing the difference. Cheap, hobbled and bricked itself more than once. Even without this i…

Sorry, but this is incorrect. I have a MyBook Live (says so on the device) which is accessible via LAN with SMB, AFP, FTP, etc. It also supports cloud access, I think, though I never enabled it and I don't currently want to replug it back in to check the (local) HTTP web interface to see what other settings it has.

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Post by emodendroket »

Spivak wrote: post #246
emodendroket wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'm going to pay a subscription fee, why am I even bothering with an on-premise solution really.

I find it funny that we simultaneously work in places that understand that software requires constant maintenance and charge customers a recurring fee for it while being gobsmacked that we have to pay indefinitely for the same. You go on-prem for the same reason you work does. Because the software licensing plus the amortized cost of hardware is less than the subscription.

Been a while since I’ve worked somewhere that actually did on-prem data storage.

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Post by dmz73 »

newsbinator wrote: post #328
throwawayboise wrote: post #319

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Suppose there were a vulnerability in Mac OS X Tiger that wiped the hard drive of any G4 Powerbook connected to the internet. Would you expect Apple to be on that?

Actually yes, in that scenario

There are almost 2800 CVEs listed for Mac OS. Do you really believe that none of those are remotely exploitable on some old version of Max OS?

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Post by sgerenser »

Someone wrote: post #510
southerntofu wrote: post #496

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> I get that it doesn't make sense to offer parts for 20yo cars Why not? Personally i believe a hardware manufacturer should be bound by law to sell parts for any vehicle it sold in the past, as long as it exists. Yes even if it was produced 40 years ago. There's no reason for it to be otherwise. If this was mandated by law all the tiny incompatibilities that they introduce with very varied models will suddenly go aw…

“a hardware manufacturer should be bound by law to sell parts for any vehicle it sold in the past, as long as it exists” Cars would get extremely expensive. Imagine Ford still having to supply model T wheels and engines. They either would have to have kept a production line and employees knowing to operate it around, or have stocked ‘enough’ parts, where ‘enough’ is very hard to estimate up front. Also, stocked parts…

Which would happen a lot more frequently in this counterfactual.
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