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Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by mekster »

maliker wrote: post #61
kumarvvr wrote: post #48

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This is an absolute win-win for Microsoft and Amazon. Microsoft gets Android Apps, Amazon expands its app store and Google is shunted out of the Microsoft eco-system. I see this as an absolute brilliant thing to happen to the app ecosystem. I really hope innovation accelerates on the Amazon App store.

Plus it counters Apple, which recently made iOS apps available on macOS. Seems like all the major OS are betting that mobile is going to be the focus of future native app development and don't want desktop users to miss out.

Apple being vertically integrated with its own ecosystem versus third parties integrating it on non native CPU platform sounds like a very different level of integrity.

No one can match the level of integration Apple had made on Windows and Android platform.

We'll see what kind of limitations and bugs to show up.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by zeusk »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #178
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #176

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Microsoft brought the office suite to Amazon's app store pretty recently, when Amazon launched their latest 10 inch tablet with a keyboard attachment.

That's good to know. One of the things that pushed me completely off Android was discovering how few even Microsoft apps I could use without Play Services' malware being installed as well. And it's very likely Google will find ways to retaliate against Microsoft for working with the Amazon Appstore here. They are pretty aggressive against forks. Honestly, I would suspect the next Duo won't be able to run Play Service…

Wouldn't that Duo2 then be the perfect point for Kindle and Surface to join forces?

Just speculating - I know nothing about Android support at Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by zeusk »

mekster wrote: post #241
maliker wrote: post #61

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Plus it counters Apple, which recently made iOS apps available on macOS. Seems like all the major OS are betting that mobile is going to be the focus of future native app development and don't want desktop users to miss out.

Apple being vertically integrated with its own ecosystem versus third parties integrating it on non native CPU platform sounds like a very different level of integrity. No one can match the level of integration Apple had made on Windows and Android platform. We'll see what kind of limitations and bugs to show up.

Windows runs on ARM too, just that non-Apple ARM chips aren't as competitive in terms of pure performance.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by zeusk »

9wzYQbTYsAIc wrote: post #154
durovo wrote: post #149

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I believe what they are saying (hoping for?) is that since there are many Windows compatible laptops with touchscreens (unlike macbooks), Android app experience on them might be better.

Ah, perhaps. I’m excited to see that Apple is unifying their hardware architectures across their various form factors of computing devices. That’ll be interesting in the future.

Microsoft had unified their software architecture across various form factors.

So xbox, (phones?), tablets, laptops, desktops, servers ran the same Windows essentially with different shells.

Windows also supports multiple hardware architectures - we just need the external ecosystem to thrive as well. We see it in graphics with nvidia and amd but compute/cpu progress limped through most of 2012-2018?.

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Post by VortexDream »

smusamashah wrote: post #16

Some years later everyone will realize that desktops are not phones and are meant to utilize more available screen space. Then everyone will come up with "revolutionary" desktop interface ideas and we here at HN will call it out that we already had these back in 90s. I am waiting for that time. Windows 10 is "phony" already and becoming more like it's built for people with low vision. I hate it's UI. I hope bringing…

That said, I assume it will be possible to run Android apps in their own windows. No need to force the entire OS into some weird Android mode. It'll likely work the same way WSL does.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by thekyle »

mike_d wrote: post #159
kumarvvr wrote: post #48

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This is an absolute win-win for Microsoft and Amazon. Microsoft gets Android Apps, Amazon expands its app store and Google is shunted out of the Microsoft eco-system. I see this as an absolute brilliant thing to happen to the app ecosystem. I really hope innovation accelerates on the Amazon App store.

> Google is shunted out of the Microsoft eco-system iOS is 54.33% of all tablets, Android is 45.57%. Microsoft, Amazon, and everyone else combined account for 0.1% It doesn't seem like an ecosystem Google has the time to worry about.

I wonder if they are counting Surface tablets in those numbers. I don't think they sell very many, but 0.1% seems too low.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by dartharva »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #11

If anything, Amazon knows this will really incentivize updating your Android app on the Amazon App Store, or bringing it there if you haven't. And that's good for us because, should the Amazon App Store become more viable for manufacturers, Google might find themselves increasingly losing control of Android, and increasingly forced to make the Play Store more competitive.

Can they try going the Apple way and banning alternate app stores and sideloading in subsequent versions of Android? What then?

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by VortexDream »

moogly wrote: post #96

But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

Off the top of my head, what I'd like to use:

WhatsApp or whatever other messaging apps. Banking apps. Pocket. Actually decent ebook reader. Actually decent podcast app.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by an_opabinia »

PaulHoule wrote: post #146
pimterry wrote: post #93

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> ”Games”: hard to say, because Windows is a better platform for games than Android by 10x. Note that there are quite a few commercial "Android on PC" emulators already, e.g. https://www.memuplay.com/ , https://www.bluestacks.com/ and https://www.bignox.com/ . In terms of scale, Bluestacks claim they have 50 million monthly active users which makes them pretty substantial! From https://www.bluestacks.com/promote-your…

I use Bluestacks to run home automation programs. It subjects me to ads for third-rate games that I can't imagine people play. First-tier Android games like F/GO and Genshin Impact seem to be disabled on non-phone devices, particularly Bluestacks and Android TV. I see a huge amount of fan art from those games, but I wonder if gaming on Bluestacks is just a Potemkin Village.

Bluestacks is a scam, they use your VM to gin up download counts for its customers, app developers.
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