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Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

Well for one the youtube app has access to secret forbidden content that the website doesn't. And the podcast app I paid for has a free phone version and a subscription non-phone version. For both of these, when I'm at my desktop, I want to use them on my desktop.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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The Amazon Appstore is awful, and due to issues between them and Google it is likely that you won't be able to install any Google Play Apps, like YouTube or Gmail. There are so many apps that pretend to actually be the official apps too and Amazon seems to not really flag anything from what I can tell.

I really hope there will still be a way to sideload the Google Play Store. It is one of the first things I do on Amazon devices.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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The article says this relies on "Intel Bridge Technology". Anyone know more about it? All I could find easily was https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/discre... Want to highlight one paragraph from that description: "Intel Bridge Technology is run-time post compiler that can be integrated into Android-in-Container to enable certain Android apps – those not written in Java or compiled to run natively…

> How many Android apps out there are not written in Java? A fair few games are developed in C++ and run through the Android native interface. Unity games, often written in C#, run on Unity's native runtime which has been ported to Android. Intel Bridge Technology is, presumably, a way to get ARM binaries running on x86 by AOT compiling them. It is not necessary for Java or Kotlin apps or native x86 apps, so those wi…

Also apps that use React Native, as the RN runtime is written in C++ and uses the NDK on Android.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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post #96

But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

I am not sure this is for consumers. If you are a developer though, this is clearly pretty attractive.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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There are few categories of apps this targets. “Clubhouse for Android” category: avant- grade apps that launch first on Android or define android platform. Nonexistent. “Median phone user ecosystem:” The TikTok Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, YouTube, Snapchat, China app ecosystem and India app ecosystem. The experience of all these is bad on Windows browsers or unavailable. ”Games”: hard to say, because Windows is a…

> ”Games”: hard to say, because Windows is a better platform for games than Android by 10x. Note that there are quite a few commercial "Android on PC" emulators already, e.g. https://www.memuplay.com/ , https://www.bluestacks.com/ and https://www.bignox.com/ . In terms of scale, Bluestacks claim they have 50 million monthly active users which makes them pretty substantial! From https://www.bluestacks.com/promote-your…

I use Bluestacks to run home automation programs.

It subjects me to ads for third-rate games that I can't imagine people play. First-tier Android games like F/GO and Genshin Impact seem to be disabled on non-phone devices, particularly Bluestacks and Android TV. I see a huge amount of fan art from those games, but I wonder if gaming on Bluestacks is just a Potemkin Village.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Right, but if no-one picks up the torch of maintaining and developing Android and giving it away to device manufacturers, I'd imagine going with the new Google OS that they are going to do that for, would be very tempting. Most phone manufacturers haven't shown an interest in putting a ton of work into the Android, themselves, even just to customize it beyond adding some shovel-ware and maybe a theme (notable excepti…

If Google were to ditch Android for Fuchsia, I could see this Microsoft/Amazon alliance stepping in and saying they'll build Android moving forward.

I think that's exactly what this is; it functions as insurance of sorts for the mobile world - such that they aren't totally locked out of a feasible platform (see tablets especially for both ) and also a "why not" for MS & Amazon both. It gives MS a starting point for an Android SDK + existing Amazon Android apps - and Amazon can bolster their offerings which currently are fairly barebones.

It could amount to little, of course. Even iOS apps on MacOS as a concept and practice has not remotely the luster ardent Apple acolytes predicted, certainly not yet even 7 months in.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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To be honest I have no idea why someone would use Android apps on Windows?

Popular apps can be used via the web-browser or even have a separat desktop app (e.g., whatsapp, facebook, youtube, ...). That is similar with games.

Edit: apps which require sensors, such as gps, gyro, etc. wouldn't work anyway...

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Absolutely. Way less janky than Mac's implementation of running iOS apps. While you can use mobile apps on your Windows laptop using native touch controls, on your Mac laptop you have to use that weird trackpad-driven interface. Which would you prefer? https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Mac-m...

Where’s the screenshot of what user input looks like for Android on Windows? I’d love to compare those side by side to make a judgement of which looks more janky.

I believe what they are saying (hoping for?) is that since there are many Windows compatible laptops with touchscreens (unlike macbooks), Android app experience on them might be better.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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To be honest I have no idea why someone would use Android apps on Windows? Popular apps can be used via the web-browser or even have a separat desktop app (e.g., whatsapp, facebook, youtube, ...). That is similar with games. Edit: apps which require sensors, such as gps, gyro, etc. wouldn't work anyway...

Personally I have seen streams of people playing mobile games with gatcha-style monetization using their computers, and feed the game window into OBS. I don't think many of those games have PC counterparts. It sounds more convenient than having to set up an external capture card.
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