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Introducing Windows 11

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Re: Introducing Windows 11

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What about removing all the old crud at some point? All this disorganized layering makes windows feel like a schizophrenic operating system. At some point they have to realize they have to start cleaning up the mess, right?

Why? None of their competitors do.

Really? Have you ever used Apple's platforms?

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> Windows is more than just an operating system; it’s a fabric woven into our lives and in our work. Folks, if you were thinking Windows 11 will bring less telemetry, you were wrong :-)

source?

None.

But Windows is less and less a money maker for Microsoft, so it's the obvious route.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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I just want them to include a Windows license in my Microsoft 365 subscription and let me install it on my M1 (or Intel) Mac. I don’t understand why the business folks at MS haven’t noticed that opportunity.

Separately, I’d like to see a return to the concept of “Trusted Computing”. In the Windows XP/Vista days, telemetry was opt-in (sometimes with a nudge). Office wouldn’t send my grammar telemetry to MS without letting me see it and remove items first. There was an option to just turn it all off.

I get why MS wants telemetry, but they would win a lot of good will by giving power users an easy way to opt out. I think relatively few would do it in practice and they’d lose some of the bad press.

Greater UI consistency would be nice as well but that isn’t exactly on brand for them, so not holding my breath.

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I'll keep using Windows 10 Home then. Thankfully I only use that machine for gaming.

I replaced Windows with Linux for gaming a couple years ago, due in part to Valve's Proton. It's not perfect, but I estimate 80% of the games I play "just work" and require no tweaking. The state of things for your set of games can be evaluated with https://www.protondb.com .

Me too. Proton is amazing, it’s really lowered the barrier to entry for gaming on Linux. For the most part, people can totally avoid having to mess with wine themselves. Until online multiplayer games make their anti-cheat software work on Linux or vac-banning Linux users stops I think Windows will still have that part of the market.

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I think it's probably closer to ChromeOS with the idea being centered is better for touch support.

There is no bloody touch on a desktop except on their braindead surface tablets. You can point your finger at the monitor but after some time, it hurts.

In that case the windows key is faster anyway.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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But there are still non-third-party things in Control Panel. Microsoft hasn't moved all their own settings over to Settings.

Third-party add-ins add additional tabs to Microsoft’s Control Panel items. Microsoft can’t just remove them.

They could remove (or just hide) them by default, if no third-party add-ins are installed. But they can't do that because not all of the settings are exposed by the new Settings screen.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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I don't like that they make it mandatory, but I understand why they want to push users to using MS accounts. When I set up a PC (Android phone) for non-technical users I always make sure they have a MS (Google) account. Things like backup and password reset are just so convenient that they outweigh the very theoretical privacy risk for most people.

It's a prelude to subscription Windows. Instead of having a family PC that everyone can use, every user with a Microsoft account will need a license. The OS for a family PC is eventually going up 5-10x in price IMO.

That's a capitalist guarantee.

Everyone already has a windows install, so the only growth is to charge more. It doesn't really matter how; windows will cost more

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Oh yeah.. I fucking hate Windows 10, a few weeks ago I had to check these settings and I got lost every time.. I think they've completed the web-pagization of the control panel nowadays.

Well, right now it's: Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Network and Internet -> Network and Sharing Center -> Change adapter settings. I'm sure they will add " -> Ad for Steve Ballmer's Basketball Team -> ".

I think I can still get to that view by right clicking on the bottom right thing for wifi

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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post #353

I just want them to include a Windows license in my Microsoft 365 subscription and let me install it on my M1 (or Intel) Mac. I don’t understand why the business folks at MS haven’t noticed that opportunity. Separately, I’d like to see a return to the concept of “Trusted Computing”. In the Windows XP/Vista days, telemetry was opt-in (sometimes with a nudge). Office wouldn’t send my grammar telemetry to MS without let…

I don’t think good will or good publicity matters, and MS knows it. If the telemetry, spam reinstalling, changing user settings, user document deleting, work interrupting crap they pull with Win10 hasn’t caused a significant number of users to abandon ship, I am not sure what will.
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