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Introducing Windows 11

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Re: Introducing Windows 11

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post #191

Everyone jokes about it finally being "the year of the linux desktop", but a few years ago that actually did happen to my circle. Between a mac for work and linux at home, I actually haven't touched windows in a number of years at this point, and interestingly, neither have a reasonable number of the technical people I interact with. Of the nontechnical people around me, many of them have transitioned to primarily us…

I've been running Linux on my personal desktop for years now. Unless you want to play games or require it for work I'm not sure what advantages windows really has anymore. Linux is noticeably faster, has no ads, and is Unix based.

Unfortunately linux does not have spying built-in (except some ubuntu - but you get the point) . As MS says in Edge: your privacy is important for us.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just got a new mac. It doesn't require it, but - They ask you to when you buy it - They ask you to in an email after you buy it - It prompts you during install - It prompts you right after you installed - It prompts you when you try and update the non-operating-system software that came with the computer, and doesn't let you upgrade it if you don't create one. And probably a whole lot more prompts that I missed. It a…

macOS does that, but I find Windows 10 to be way, way worse. There's an option in one of the setup screens, but good luck finding it. They really make it hard to use a local account (or at least used to - I haven't reinstalled Windows in 2 years).

I'm torn on which is worse, I've helped people set up windows computers on the most recent iteration and was equally unimpressed.

Windows hides the option more, mac holds updating offline apps hostage, safari browser extensions hostage, and tries to trick you into entering payment information.

Both are terrible.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been running Linux on my personal desktop for years now. Unless you want to play games or require it for work I'm not sure what advantages windows really has anymore. Linux is noticeably faster, has no ads, and is Unix based.

Windows also has Linux now. I can play Windows games and use Linux on Windows (WSL) I don’t see the point of running Linux distros on bare metal anymore.

Trust. Windows is a forein OS with backdoors.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Everyone jokes about it finally being "the year of the linux desktop", but a few years ago that actually did happen to my circle. Between a mac for work and linux at home, I actually haven't touched windows in a number of years at this point, and interestingly, neither have a reasonable number of the technical people I interact with. Of the nontechnical people around me, many of them have transitioned to primarily us…

I think there are more people who are happy with (or at least tolerant of) Windows 10 than some of us geeks might like to admit. A lot of non-techie people aren't going to run into the negative aspects of Windows 10 much in practice. They aren't going to be changing enough settings to be frustrated by the multiple UIs. They won't look up each OS update online before deciding whether to install it. Many of them care l…

White text on white background. Windows without ribbon and decorations on multiple monitors. Single clicks registering as double click. Win 10 is a mess.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just got a new mac. It doesn't require it, but - They ask you to when you buy it - They ask you to in an email after you buy it - It prompts you during install - It prompts you right after you installed - It prompts you when you try and update the non-operating-system software that came with the computer, and doesn't let you upgrade it if you don't create one. And probably a whole lot more prompts that I missed. It a…

macOS does that, but I find Windows 10 to be way, way worse. There's an option in one of the setup screens, but good luck finding it. They really make it hard to use a local account (or at least used to - I haven't reinstalled Windows in 2 years).

I think you need to not setup internet connection to be able to not use MS account.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Here's a tool to check if your PC meets the hardware requirements[0]. However, it looks like many modern systems don't have TPM 2.0 enabled in the BIOS, and will come back with "This PC can't run Windows 11" (including mine - Asus Prime X470 Pro with Ryzen 2700X, 32GB RAM, 1.5TB storage, Radeon RX 5600 XT.) [0] https://download.microsoft.com/download/1/d/d/1dd9969b-bc9a-...

TPM is required? That's great because it gives me a good reason to tell my boss we shouldn't switch to it. What are they thinking with that?

Maybe to better pin a license to a device? Or because google: https://chrome.googleblog.com/2011/07/chromebook-security-br...

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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post #57

The only real question is, will I still be able to get to the Network card configuration page that's been the same for the last 15-20 years? I use it daily. They've just put it behind more and more "nicce looking, but non-functional" network management UIs,.

I haven't used windows in a while, but it used to be: win+r > ncpa.cpl

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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post #136

So, yet another level of UI inconsistencies[1]. [1] https://ntdotdev.wordpress.com/2021/02/06/state-of-the-windo...

Its so bad. I don't know how this doesn't bug other people more. It's completely unfinished. Plenty of settings haven't moved from their XP or Windows 7 menus, as new "metro" 8/10 settings menus are created that have missing settings, new settings, and conflicting settings. The new W10 interface to set a static IP will conflict with the old one (adapter properties) without telling you. Happy debugging.

As a late adopter to Win10 who hadn't been in a Windows environment since the early days of Win7, I was shocked how jarring ugly and inconsistent it was.

Win11 from what they've revealed looks like a moderate improvement? But I know what they're not showing is how the desktop will look with several non-native MS applications open, the nonsense of the theming across Office applications, and Explorer with its inexplicable tab bars.

It makes me disappointed that something so ubiquitous and essential to peoples' work can't aspire to be aesthetically, if not beautiful, at least nice.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Do you think they finally finished the control panel transition? Window 10's control panel thing feels like it was stopped halfway through development, so they left the old stuff in there but made it hard to access. Unfortunately most of the time when you need to change something it's not on the new control panel so you have to dig for the old one instead. When Windows 10 was first released I figured they would finis…

Control panel allowed for third-party add-ins. settings doesn't. Until CPLs are migrated, Control Panel stays

But there are still non-third-party things in Control Panel. Microsoft hasn't moved all their own settings over to Settings.
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