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Introducing Windows 11

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Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by 72deluxe »

thunderbong wrote: post #250
unicornporn wrote: post #15

So, yet another level of UI inconsistencies[1]. [1] https://ntdotdev.wordpress.com/2021/02/06/state-of-the-windo...

Comment on the Reddit thread where this screenshot was posted - https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/o1x183/the_famou ... The ODBC Driver interface for configuration is tied to the old dialog. The interface for the drivers was designed around GetOpenFileName() as it was at the time. One of the features of GetOpenFileName/GetSaveFileName is that the structure passed in can include two special options- a functio…

The backwards compatability on Windows is truly great, particularly compared to Linux and macOS (where messages fired off when buttons are clicked silently disappear nowhere, and the button does nothing)....

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by garaetjjte »

dekhn wrote: post #57

The only real question is, will I still be able to get to the Network card configuration page that's been the same for the last 15-20 years? I use it daily. They've just put it behind more and more "nicce looking, but non-functional" network management UIs,.

Classic network configuration is not good UI by any means, claustrophobic non-resizable windows with complicated nested hierarchy. But they somehow managed to make "Settings" not better, with huge whitespace and a lot less functional...

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by ehsankia »

dunnevens wrote: post #36
kadomony wrote: post #7

I mean.. The taskbar seems like a Dock now. The interface seems very Apple Finder-esque now. I feel like they're just aligning with macOS now. Not that I'm complaining, the video and the interface all are sexy.

Good news is you can still anchor the taskbar to the left. At least you can within the leaked ISO. Bad news is that the smallest taskbar size is bigger than the current smallest size.

Is that true? From the official microsoft site [0], I see:

> Taskbar functionality is changed including: Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed.

[0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

EDIT: Sorry I misread, you meant the icons. But yeah unfortunately it sounds like you can't move the taskbar as a whole anymore. I always kept mine at the top.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by shuntress »

TheCapn wrote: post #204
cblconfederate wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but how are their sales doing? given the kind of apps that run on a PC, i think the touchscreen is just a gimmick that is barely used. Windows programs are just not made for tablets, and will never be

> i think the touchscreen is just a gimmick that is barely used. I'll just say that my laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga) has a touchscreen and I love it . Every laptop I buy from here out will be a touchscreen merely because the ability to reach up while I type and just tap where i want my mouse to go next is such a better system than working with a nipple or trackpad. I think as laptops with touchscreens become more aff…

I would assume part of this is due to the trackpad. The only trackpads (of those I have used) that I would describe as better than "decent" have been on mac laptops.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by 72deluxe »

masklinn wrote: post #31
_9omd wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it looks like they finally just threw the towel in and admitted that macOS has had a superior design aesthetic, and started heading in the same direction.

The good news is they’re doing that just as apple is fucking it all up, having apparently put iOS designers in charge of macOS. The bad news is Apple is fucking it all up, having apparently put iOS people in charge of macOS. The new safari looks insanely bad.

I'm still on Mojave because of the UI changes in Big Sur.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by meibo »

CyberRabbi wrote: post #220
distrill wrote: post #166

Everyone jokes about it finally being "the year of the linux desktop", but a few years ago that actually did happen to my circle. Between a mac for work and linux at home, I actually haven't touched windows in a number of years at this point, and interestingly, neither have a reasonable number of the technical people I interact with. Of the nontechnical people around me, many of them have transitioned to primarily us…

> Is windows still considered the default home computing environment? The answer is a solid and unequivocal yes. Linux is single digits in the market, Mac is roughly 20%, windows is the rest. Ask a normal person what they use on their PC, the question likely wouldn’t make sense because most people aren’t aware a viable alternative to windows even exists.

Because there is no viable alternative. Macs are way too expensive for normal people that want to book a trip and read emails once in a while, and Desktop Linux sucks for everyone that's not technical or doesn't have ready access to someone technical.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by GordonS »

marcthe12 wrote: post #275
GordonS wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, I confess I'd missed that. Would he interesting to know how many users were still on an x86 build though (I would have guessed around 7 ;) Is there anything more of substance though?

TPM hardware requirements. it's related to security so again

By "anything more of substance", I meant, well, features!

Also, this TPM requirement seems like something they shouldn't be doing - it's not a benefit for end users to have less choice. I mean, if I don't want to use a TPM, then why should I have to?

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by el_duderino »

hardlyhardly wrote: post #90
tyingq wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a fan. A centered dock does look pretty, but to me it's not as intuitive as a left-aligned screen. Especially since you would be navigating to the "Start" menu a lot. Getting my mouse bottom left is more natural than "some random offset of dead bottom center". I can't tell if the icons get larger as you hover. That sort of magnifies this problem, as the start button would shift left as other icons are highlig…

It's Windows-- surely you'll be able to customize it to pin it to the left, or there will be 3rd-party software to do it for you.

Yep. There is an option in the leaked build, which is pretty old, to pin it to the left.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by larodi »

thunderbong wrote: post #250
unicornporn wrote: post #15

So, yet another level of UI inconsistencies[1]. [1] https://ntdotdev.wordpress.com/2021/02/06/state-of-the-windo...

Comment on the Reddit thread where this screenshot was posted - https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/o1x183/the_famou ... The ODBC Driver interface for configuration is tied to the old dialog. The interface for the drivers was designed around GetOpenFileName() as it was at the time. One of the features of GetOpenFileName/GetSaveFileName is that the structure passed in can include two special options- a functio…

a very fair, honest review. yes, software ages with time, and with time piles of new layers are added and others cannot be removed for very obvious reasons.

people who fail to understand this have basically no clue about complex systems evolution over tens of years, or have only produced their own cloud-managed service.

so, yeah, Microsoft is faring very well. OSes after windows 7 are extremely stable considering the diversity of components and packages that run on top of it.

apple killing all backward compatibility is not necessarily a good thing. we are talking right to repair? then what what right does an OS vendor to kill backwards-compatible components?

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