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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by kiney »

mafuy wrote: post #893
DocTomoe wrote: post #822

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Fines in Germany usually follow the "Tagessatz", which is the income of a day, as calculated based on your tax records (and other information). So you might be sentenced to pay 90 'daily incomes', which hits a poor person as badly as it does hit a rich person. Also note that there is a minimum amount of income that you always will be granted access to ('Pfändungsfreigrenze'), so a fine will not make you die from hung…

True in principle, but afaik the income is usually estimated (it is not measured precisely) a lot lower than its true value for wealthy persons. Still a better idea better than fixed fine amounts, of course.

people scraping on their salary are hit very hard by fines defined by "Tagessätze". But once someone is "poor enough" to hit the limit or anyway living on welfare they are very ineffective.

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Post by nvarsj »

Trias11 wrote: post #436
G3rn0ti wrote: post #418

30 years for tax evasion? No wonder he preferred to die. I mean, you’ll get jail time for severe cases of tax evasion in Germany, too, but it’s a couple of years at max and most of the time it’s on probation. How do you justify your draconic punishments in the US which is supposed to be a free country?

US Citizenship in reality is an IRS trap. Now Biden wants to hire 87,000 more IRS workers to harass americans. This used to be a great country. Times long gone.

Never, ever get US citizenship if you plan to live abroad at any point in your life. The US tax regime has become oppressive and punitive for expats. It's a sad state of affairs.

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Post by h0h0h0h0111 »

purplevendetta wrote: post #870
stjohnswarts wrote: post #695

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I've met a number of personable people who I completely disagreed with on politics and their actions, as long as you don't challenge their ideological stances. It's kind of like dealing with an alcoholic as long as you don't challenge their addiction everything tends to go well. It happened to me just last night on the phone. The human mind is a complex thing.

Why would you have to agree on politics to like someone? Comparing someones ideologial stance with a severe addiction is pretty messed up, dude. Are you so sure your stance is the absolute right one?

OP didn't specify an ideology, and I think their statement stands for both people holding extreme and non-extreme views if they are held very strongly.

EDIT: I'm no doubt the angry alcoholic archetype who doesn't want to discuss it when my Windows-using friends try and tell me it's better than my Linux setup. Then again, I know my stance is the absolute right one ;)

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Post by Uberphallus »

freedomben wrote: post #503
G3rn0ti wrote: post #418

30 years for tax evasion? No wonder he preferred to die. I mean, you’ll get jail time for severe cases of tax evasion in Germany, too, but it’s a couple of years at max and most of the time it’s on probation. How do you justify your draconic punishments in the US which is supposed to be a free country?

Not just that but as a US citizen even if you aren't living in the US anymore you still have to pay US taxes. The 2014-2018 income taxes he owed were while staying abroad. The US forces you to renounce your citizenship to get out of paying taxes to a country you don't live in. IANAL but that's my understanding.

Even more, a court may say that you're still US citizen even if you renounced, for the only purpose of being able to prosecute you.

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Post by dolmen »

neom wrote: post #669
erwinkle wrote: post #598

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I looked at that photo and realized I knew you Small world, my co-founer and I won 2 DigitalOcean awards at HackTech and LA Hacks that you awarded us

I recall both of them. Did you win an iPad? If so, I have a picture of me giving you that prize still!

Amazing!

@erwinkle Do you realize you touched a guy who touched John McAfee?

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Post by agent008t »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #838
KVFinn wrote: post #502

Was just reading about McAfee freebasing bath salts from old posts on an old Joe Rogan forum and not paying taxes seems like the absolute least he was up to: >I've processed 23 kilos of this stuff in the past year or so, and bump it myself every day - in fair quantities the hypersexuality... is beyond belief. I have had a number of acquaintances (both male and female) who have rubbed their genitals way past the point…

Man, reading that was like reading TOTSE, turned up to 11.

John McAfee was Jeff Hunter?

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Post by pydry »

colechristensen wrote: post #374
notafraudster wrote: post #160

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McAfee was an obviously unhinged lunatic peddling fringe nonsense. You can make an argument that cryptocurrency poses a threat to the state, but a 75 year old man who spends 16 hours a day rambling on twitter about fringe stuff does not. The available evidence points strongly to a deeply mentally ill guy facing life in prison and killing himself.

Unhinged folks can be murdered by state actors outside the law too... This is one of those situations which may well just be impossible to unravel in a satisfactory way. In fact, if you're clever and in intelligence, a good way to cover your tracks and generally be nefarious is to provide a reason for your desired outcome to happen. In other words, do what you can to encourage the unhinged tendencies of your target s…

As a thought experiment I have wondered before what I would do if I suspected the government might want to suicide me.

It's depressing to think that I'd have to have perfect mental health and the appearance of perfect mental health to arise suspicion otherwise my suicide would be written off. This is, of course, literally impossible.

Even assuming I did, almost anything bad that happened to me prior to the murder (losing a loved one, going to prison, being unable to go home, being arrested, stories of how you mistreated your cat) could be used to push for the idea of it being a suicide on mental health grounds. If Snowden were offed tomorrow, for example, there would be a veritable chorus of believed people declaring him mentally unwell whether or not there was any clinical evidence for it.

Any additional "craziness" from my past (& most people have some) adds fuel to the fire. Any evidence that you considered suicide in the past then you're practically a write off.

The fact that even foreshadowing it by saying "I would never commit suicide" would be used as evidence that I'm crazy (because "normal" people don't do that) is truly depressing. I thought this would work but it appears it's too easily dismissed as somethihg only a kook would do because Occam's razor.

Assuming the other evidence can be dealt with quietly (videotape, autopsy, etc), state sanctioned murder of dissidents and whistleblowers this way seems fairly easy. Moreover, if you're a whistleblower or dissident with real mental health issues or god forbid have attempted it before a staged suicide is a very logical way of dealing with you. The public is primed to write it off without a second thought.

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Post by dolmen »

mrtksn wrote: post #99
gkoberger wrote: post #25

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I mean, he very likely killed his neighbor in 2012... so I feel like "colorful" undermines how much of a monster he's been for over a decade.

If you are rich enough you are eccentric and colorful.

Are you eccentric and colorful because you are rich?

Are you rich because you were eccentric and colorful?

Or just people find you eccentric and colorful just because they look at you now that you are rich?

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Post by blacklion »

poisonarena wrote: post #799
piva00 wrote: post #688

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In more recent articles about it it seems to be a variation of alpha-PVP (flakka), something called alpha-PHP that is outside of any schedule for drugs. Basically a designer cathinone that is (or was) still legal.

I smoked alpha pvp in a transit home in Saint Petersburg with some Georgian immigrants thinking it was meth, It made me really really high, and I spent the whole next day crying. I suspect this is a pretty popular drug in Russia.

Unfortunately, yes. I lost friend to it ("alpha"). He is technically alive, but with completely ruined physics. I've thought, that only opiates could be so destructive, oh, man, I was wrong :-(

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Post by watwut »

purplevendetta wrote: post #870
stjohnswarts wrote: post #695

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I've met a number of personable people who I completely disagreed with on politics and their actions, as long as you don't challenge their ideological stances. It's kind of like dealing with an alcoholic as long as you don't challenge their addiction everything tends to go well. It happened to me just last night on the phone. The human mind is a complex thing.

Why would you have to agree on politics to like someone? Comparing someones ideologial stance with a severe addiction is pretty messed up, dude. Are you so sure your stance is the absolute right one?

Depends on what ideological stance is. I knew people whose ideological stance was that Jews rule the world and are dangerous. Including all the consequences including mild "holocaust was basically necessary". Perfectly charming people, super easy to get along with. Of course, unless you insist on claiming that Jews were treated badly and unfairly. When you oppose them about that specific point, they get quite aggressive.

It is easy to get along with people of various ideological positions, as long as you are willing to nod along, regardless of real world consequences of their ideological stances. As long as their opinion is the one ever said out loud.

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