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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#91
Don't know nearly anything about the guy, but as a rule anytime an enemy of a government dies of "suicide" or natural causes and there is no video footage I am suspect. You can buy a security cam and a year of monitoring for a the price of a hamburger. Nowadays a 3 year old can't eat a cookie without there being video footage.

These should be assumed murders until proven otherwise.

If you need a reminder of why, watch this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJujIwtdk8w)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_al-Mabhouh

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though it is also highly notable that he publicly posted "I'm not going to kill myself, and if I do then I was probably assassinated" before his death.

That was 2 years ago though. A lot in a person's life can change in just 2 years.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27609346

He's also indicated much more recently that any "suicide" wouldn't be such.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#93
McAffee ended up doing YOLO to the extreme. Check out the "After McAffee Associates" section.

> In June 2013, McAfee uploaded a parody video titled How to Uninstall McAfee Antivirus onto his YouTube channel. In the video, McAfee criticized McAfee's antivirus software while snorting white powder, and being stroked and undressed by scantily clad women. The video has garnered over 10 million views.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McAfee#After_McAfee_Assoc...

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#94

From McAffee in 2019, "Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: "We're coming for you McAfee! We're going to kill yourself". I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whackd. Check my right arm. " https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/120086428376625152...

And in late 2020: "I am content in here. I have friends. The food is good. All is well. Know that if I hang myself, a la Epstein, it will be no fault of mine."

https://archive.ph/peexn

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#95
post #66

I met John in an Atlanta airport lounge years ago[1]. I recognized him immediately as I've always admired him, and I decided to go up to him and tell him as much. He invited me to sit down, and told him about when I was a teenager in the 90s learning about tech entrepreneurs at the time, I always thought he was pretty cool and had good ideas. I told him I respected him, and that I was sure he'd lived an incredible li…

Your sketchy looking link which I mistakenly clicked on instead of copy and pasting into my VM is b0rk. Says "This item has exceeded its view limit!"

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#96

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

> I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. In America, we're supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. It's a shame it really only takes an accusation.

He was found guilty in civil court in Florida and forced to pay $25M; he never stood trial because he fled.

Also, presumption of innocence applies to the law, not to HN comments.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#97
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As cynical as it might seem, there is an alternative possibility: in spite of getting a tattoo saying he would not kill himself, and in spite of posting a tweet saying he would not kill himself, he went ahead and killed himself.

The better questions are, did he deserve to be imprisoned and did he deserve to die?

> did he deserve to die?

Is there a coherent answer to this in the case of suicide?

I feel like we enter a liar's paradox since the entity who decides whether you deserve to die is yourself.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#99
post #3

Good or bad, what a sad ending to a colorful life. The guy was troubled and had many shortcomings, but he was colorful and also achieved success and arguably was one of the seminal figures in the nascent AV industry. Sad to see his fall from grace and into a world of extravagance, deceit and cheating (taxes) and, if allegations true, even worse; then to end it on the floor of a jail -all by his own hands.

I mean, he very likely killed his neighbor in 2012... so I feel like "colorful" undermines how much of a monster he's been for over a decade.

If you are rich enough you are eccentric and colorful.
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