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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which poses the question - if you're absolutely sure you're not going to kill yourself, how could you make sure that everybody knows it and believes it? Is there a way?

Reliable (and potentially even publicly accessible) surveillance. Just livestream every moment of your life and keep logs in multiple locations.

Not an option though if you're jailed in Barcelona.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#192

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

Was he convincted of murder, or are you acting as the judge and jury based on third hand media reports?

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#193
post #3

Good or bad, what a sad ending to a colorful life. The guy was troubled and had many shortcomings, but he was colorful and also achieved success and arguably was one of the seminal figures in the nascent AV industry. Sad to see his fall from grace and into a world of extravagance, deceit and cheating (taxes) and, if allegations true, even worse; then to end it on the floor of a jail -all by his own hands.

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Please don't do this here.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#194
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which poses the question - if you're absolutely sure you're not going to kill yourself, how could you make sure that everybody knows it and believes it? Is there a way?

Reliable (and potentially even publicly accessible) surveillance. Just livestream every moment of your life and keep logs in multiple locations.

Well, unless you get taken to prison where you will be surveilled, but the surveillance will fail at exactly the moment you committed suicide, mysteriously, and all footage would disappear after a technician makes an innocent mistake while backing it up.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#195

From McAffee in 2019, "Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: "We're coming for you McAfee! We're going to kill yourself". I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whackd. Check my right arm. " https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/120086428376625152...

As cynical as it might seem, there is an alternative possibility: in spite of getting a tattoo saying he would not kill himself, and in spite of posting a tweet saying he would not kill himself, he went ahead and killed himself.

He could have killed himself anyway--- that is obvious, but his past statements still need to be taken seriously, and extra care and doubt need to be applied to the reported story.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#196
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As cynical as it might seem, there is an alternative possibility: in spite of getting a tattoo saying he would not kill himself, and in spite of posting a tweet saying he would not kill himself, he went ahead and killed himself.

Which poses the question - if you're absolutely sure you're not going to kill yourself, how could you make sure that everybody knows it and believes it? Is there a way?

Put someone in a room and prevent them from sleeping for a few days and I'm pretty sure you could convince anyone to kill themselves. There's no absolute certainty that can ever be provided.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#197
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, he very likely killed his neighbor in 2012... so I feel like "colorful" undermines how much of a monster he's been for over a decade.

If you are rich enough you are eccentric and colorful.

“He's mad?" "Sort of mad. But mad with lots of money." "Ah, then he can’t be mad. I've been around; if a man has lots of money he's just eccentric.”

― Terry Pratchett, The Light Fantastic

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reliable (and potentially even publicly accessible) surveillance. Just livestream every moment of your life and keep logs in multiple locations.

How does that work if you are in prison?

You can't. That's the job of the prison. This is why people get upset when there is a "CCTV malfunction" when high profile prisoners supposedly kill themselves.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#199
post #36

From McAffee in 2019, "Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: "We're coming for you McAfee! We're going to kill yourself". I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whackd. Check my right arm. " https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/120086428376625152...

Why would anyone want him dead? I don't think anyone cared about him that much.

This. The guy was just some drug-addled tech industry has been that shilled crypto scams and dodged his taxes. I think all those bathsalts were making him paranoid.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#200
post #66

I met John in an Atlanta airport lounge years ago[1]. I recognized him immediately as I've always admired him, and I decided to go up to him and tell him as much. He invited me to sit down, and told him about when I was a teenager in the 90s learning about tech entrepreneurs at the time, I always thought he was pretty cool and had good ideas. I told him I respected him, and that I was sure he'd lived an incredible li…

Often meeting your hero's does not go well, so pleased this did for you :)
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