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Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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Post by thescribbblr »

bsid wrote: post #65
sbacic wrote: post #28

I think that the whole discussion around low-code is missing a pretty fundamental issue: most programming libraries suck. If I need, say, authentication, why do I need to install a library and then read a bunch of documentation on how to use it? Why can't I simply plug it in (just like low-code!) and have it automatically work? I think there is a lot of room to improve developer tooling and that the effort spent ther…

This is what we're trying to solve at Clerk, ( https://www.clerk.dev ) and it's been harder than we've expected, especially in regards to local development environments. Although we think we’ve made it seamless! Would love your opinion. However, we're definitely not aiming it at non-programmers. I don't think completely general low/no-code solutions will ever take off. Everyone wants things far too custom, and at som…

Amazing. I mean I was feeling lazy to create auth+profile thing happy to know about what you guys are doing. Thank you so much for creating this!

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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Post by only_as_i_fall »

mbesto wrote: post #72
only_as_i_fall wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name 100 tech companies you've sold. I'll wait

> built, managed, sold, advised advised Thanks for the snark though.

Then just say advised. It's less impressive sounding than built managed or sold but at least it's not a lie.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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Post by jamexcb »

Yes we have! And our costumers too. We develop and sell: https://www.kalipsostudio.com/. It's a RAD tool low-code call it what you want. And we "Sysdev" use Kalipso internally to develop and sell (with local partners) 3 final products.

MSS, DCAPP, SYSLOG (in Portuguese) https://www.sysdevmss.com/ https://sysdevdcapp.com/ https://www.syslogmobile.com/ MSS has more than 15 years on the market. So it's a lot of people relying their sales on a software that was build with a RAD tool.

Our costumers are manly 3 types: Consulting companies that resell MSS/DCAPP or use Kalipso to create their own solution. Freelancers that use Kalipso to create their own solutions and bespoke programs to costumers. And big companies with an IT department that use Kalipso internally. MSS/DCAPP is manly for Portuguese/Spanish language countries. Kalipso is used everywhere from Argentina to Vietnam. And we ha no idea how many apps are out there build because we don't have royalties and we don't collect any data.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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Post by mbesto »

only_as_i_fall wrote: post #93
mbesto wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> built, managed, sold, advised advised Thanks for the snark though.

Then just say advised. It's less impressive sounding than built managed or sold but at least it's not a lie.

You must be fun at parties.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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Post by sergiotapia »

sbacic wrote: post #28

I think that the whole discussion around low-code is missing a pretty fundamental issue: most programming libraries suck. If I need, say, authentication, why do I need to install a library and then read a bunch of documentation on how to use it? Why can't I simply plug it in (just like low-code!) and have it automatically work? I think there is a lot of room to improve developer tooling and that the effort spent ther…

MeteorJS solved this years ago. You add a package and have everything working including oauth sources in 10 minutes flat. It was incredible. Shame MeteorJS died of his death. Sorry for your condolences.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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Post by quickthrower2 »

sbacic wrote: post #28

I think that the whole discussion around low-code is missing a pretty fundamental issue: most programming libraries suck. If I need, say, authentication, why do I need to install a library and then read a bunch of documentation on how to use it? Why can't I simply plug it in (just like low-code!) and have it automatically work? I think there is a lot of room to improve developer tooling and that the effort spent ther…

TBH on asp.net you pretty much just follow a tutorial and you have signup, auth and users pretty quick. Let’s say this is 4 hours work for a programmer but .net newbie to set up a new project, add authentication including email/password and Google and get that deployed to azure. 4 hours from a business is a tiny amount of time. The upside over no code is owning the code and not being reliant on a dozen other indie startups for your business to continue to run

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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Post by iamnazzty »

I built a company on No-code called VentureBasecamp which was an EduTech product to help entrepreneurs at incubators become more investable. I was heading the product and decided against hiring devs to save the cost and built the whole product myself using Bubble.io, Bridge LMS, Typeform, Auth0 and a few other tools. We launched our beta within a few months and the program was so successful that we got mentioned in a UN report in the MENA region as a best practice in incubator training. We even won an Indian Govt tender against large established giants in the ecosystem including large universities with age old entrepreneurship cells to train the Govt’s 101 incubators. Eventually, we got acquired by Wadhwani Foundation and became their current Venture Fastrack program, all through the speed of experimentation and iteration through no-code which helped us focus on other parts of the business. In terms of scalability, we load tested a simple API call to our web app and clocked 3000 users/sec before it broke.

PS: I don’t work there anymore as I am now building a No-code SaaS company called Heyflow.app right now.

Now that I have your attention, let me tell you that critics of no-code and low code think about it wrong. It is not a silver bullet for the whole product. Think of your product as modules/micro services not as a monolith (VPs of Engineering reading this and saying Duh!). Some modules can use No-code, some low code, some NodeJS scripting depending on the use case and keeping them all loosely coupled allows to make future changes easily. No-code is another tool in Batman’s belt, not the whole belt.

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