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Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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Your water and electricity utilities most likely also have caps on how much water or electricity you can use before they cut you off. Except if you go over a few times they won't ban you from their service for a year. They just want you to curb your use, which is exactly what this guy was willing to do.

>Your water and electricity utilities most likely also have caps on how much water or electricity you can use before they cut you off. They do? Where is this the case? My water and electricity usage have no monthly cap and are only shut off if I fail to pay the bills.

The only example, which is kind of spurious, that comes to mind is drought in Texas - if you're watering your lawn during a drought, or decide to fill up your empty pool, I believe that there are actual legal consequences.

Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually if you read his post from a day ago, you will see him state he stopped the open access point. He took steps to stop what he thought was the issue. It was not until the cap was broken a second time that he realized it was his backup system uploading to a 3rd party service. That is not entitlement at all. If anything it was ignorance of the fact that your upload data is also measured against the cap. I agree w…

Perhaps if he was more civil with the service reps and just explained the mistake he would have been given a reprieve. Regardless, it doesn't sound like he's willing to cut back his data use.

Yeah, maybe if he bought them a cake and rented a hooker, everything would be peachy!

Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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I totally disagree about broadband being a right. And neither is electricity, insurance, or clean water. However, I do agree that it's a necessity for modern living, just like the rest of the above. As such, I think it should be protected in the same ways.

Presumably you're also paying a fixed monthly fee for "unlimited" broadband. It's likely you're paying per amount used for electricity and water. I'd bet your insurance is a fixed periodic fee with coverage capped at a certain amount. If my assumptions are correct, then your broadband services is already treated very much like your insurance service. How do you propose things change?

Most companies have overage charges you can elect to pay, instead of canceling your account. That would have been a good start.

Others mentioned not pretending to be unlimited. Actually charge for usage, instead. (I actually hope companies don't do this, as I'm WAY above the norm for usage.)

Another thing that some companies do is limit your speed once you hit the cap. That makes sure that you can do anything you -need- to, but can't go too much further over the cap.

Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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Comcast refused to work with him, even though he was willing and motivated to address the problem. Even after being careful with bandwidth and disabling his public access point, they still cut him off for a year with no appeal. This mirrors what happened to me. I was given an automated warning. I called the security number but they wouldn't tell me what sort of traffic I should be looking for. They didn't even have a…

>Comcast refused to work with him, even though he was willing and motivated to address the problem. Even after being careful with bandwidth and disabling his public access point, they still cut him off for a year with no appeal. He obviously wasn't that careful. There are dozens of apps on Windows, Mac, and Linux that can tell you how much bandwidth you're using; it's trivial to set one up, watch your throughput, and…

> There are dozens of apps on Windows, Mac, and Linux that can tell you how much bandwidth you're using

Sure, for that machine. So I suppose he could go out and bet a new box, set it up as the router, and then monitor traffic.

Just like I have to install my own electric meter... wait. Or like how I have to install my own flow measuring va... wait again.

Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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> My opinion on all this is simple. The ability to access broadband internet is a right, and should be defined as an essential utility. Yawn... first world problems. Broadband is assuredly not your "right", it's a privilege. If the terms of the contract are broken (and they were, twice ) you have very little recourse. More to the point, get a Comcast business line. You will get hassled less, and I hear it may actuall…

It's as much of a right as telephone access is. In this sort of utility situation they shouldn't be able to cut off a paying customer.

The phone company can (and does) cut off people who violate their terms of service. Basically he needs to re-negotiate his terms of service, which means getting a business account. Its more expensive but he won't be 'capped'.

I'm surprised the Comcast guy didn't try to sell it to him.

Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your water and electricity utilities most likely also have caps on how much water or electricity you can use before they cut you off. Except if you go over a few times they won't ban you from their service for a year. They just want you to curb your use, which is exactly what this guy was willing to do.

>Your water and electricity utilities most likely also have caps on how much water or electricity you can use before they cut you off. They do? Where is this the case? My water and electricity usage have no monthly cap and are only shut off if I fail to pay the bills.

My friend had some kind of washer hose burst in his house when he was away for the weekend. The damage was minimal (it was in his unfinished basement) but the water company, detecting a large amount of water being used, came by and shut his water off.

"Oh but that's different" - not really. Same thing would have happened if my friend was intentionally trying to fill his basement with water.

Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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The worst thing about this is not the cutting off of the service, but the fact that this guy has no reasonable alternative to Comcast in his area. Tyranny of the last mile still exists, and isn't going away any time soon.

Wrong... 1. Satellite Broadband 2. Wireless Broadband(most wireless co's slow bandwidth by 15% after bandwidth cap is exceeded and do not cut off) In building use buy a $200 Wilson Wireless amplifier

T-Mobile and Virgin are the only carriers I'm aware of that use a "soft" cap as you describe. AT&T and Verizon don't cut you off, they just keep charging you by the GB when you break the cap.

Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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> My opinion on all this is simple. The ability to access broadband internet is a right, and should be defined as an essential utility. Yawn... first world problems. Broadband is assuredly not your "right", it's a privilege. If the terms of the contract are broken (and they were, twice ) you have very little recourse. More to the point, get a Comcast business line. You will get hassled less, and I hear it may actuall…

It's clearly not a right, as far as I know getting electricity isn't a right either. One could argue that Broadband should be a public utility, but even then there would likely be caps and streaming video would probably be a "less important" use of said utility.

> as far as I know...

How far is that?

Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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The author had me up until the moment he claimed that internet access is a "right". Ok, so let's say internet access is a "right". Rights often come within a framework. You have many rights that are yours for the losing. Your freedom to come and go freely, for example. If you break a law, you lose your freedom by being put in jail. To say something is a "right" is to say that it ought to be available, or that the gov…

The UN recently proposed that Internet access be a human right.[1]

[1] http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/internet-a-human-ri...

Re: Comcast cuts off customer for going over 250GB of legitimate use

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually if you read his post from a day ago, you will see him state he stopped the open access point. He took steps to stop what he thought was the issue. It was not until the cap was broken a second time that he realized it was his backup system uploading to a 3rd party service. That is not entitlement at all. If anything it was ignorance of the fact that your upload data is also measured against the cap. I agree w…

>My question would be is does the 250g data cap apply when they are watching TV/Movies online via Comcast (XFinity) provided services? Yes it does. But, of course it doesn't apply to the On Demand services on Comcast Cable, which is where they want to push customers at.

This. Combined with the power of local carrier monopolies, it's exactly the reason we need net neutrality.
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