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Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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No joke. I pay my CPA extra to nag me.

I do the same thing!

Same. I automate it, though, wherever possible, and still managed to forget to pay my most recent property taxes, heh

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You'll never "solve" it; you learn to manage it. I've had fantastic experiences with donefirst.com, but also chadd.org is a great website with tons of resources. Don't give up on the medication; finding the right one and right dosage is extremely helpful for many people with ADHD, myself included. The most important part is: find an expert. Child psychologists/psychiatrists often have a ton of experience with ADHD, a…

Yes yes yes to all of this! I was fortunate to have a local medical school with a psychiatry department that has an Adult ADHD clinic where I could seek a diagnosis at the age of 42. Unlike many adults who suspect they have ADHD, I was taken seriously and did not encounter any skepticism on the part of my healthcare providers. I even expressed concern that my problem could be anxiety or depression instead, and my psy…

I’ve been meaning to read that!

Also, this post is spot-on. 100.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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Read up a bit on ADHD. That 'hyperfocus' that occurs either with deadlines or on a passion project is a symptom, as is the inability to get excited about projects you simply don't want to do - especially given your otherwise positive reviews and your ability to clear your mind and hyperfocus near a deadline, it's something to consider. I was diagnosed at 33, and it changed my life infinitely for the better. YMMV, and…

Isn't it just rational not to get excited about boring stuff that is rewarded by a fix monetary ceiling? Economically it completely makes sense: why put more energy into something that yields the same result either way? Or maybe I have ADHD too.

Indolence when you get don't get more out of extra work is a logical response.

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What is it that changed your life? Medication? Better understanding of yourself?

Medication could also change the life for worse because one risks getting psychosis.

True, but this is also the case if you have heart surgery to save your life.

There’s tradeoffs to everything.

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This is simply false. Please read up on it before making claims that are unfounded. Medication saves lives.

No, this is not false. Reddit is all over posts about this. Any medication has risks how can you deny this? If you take it you accept this (admittedly) small risk.

Sorry, I responded to an exaggeration with one of my own. Mea culpa.

Of course every medication has risks. You should evaluate them for yourself, with a physician.

However, generalizing that to “medication is dangerous and can cause psychosis, or death, and thus you shouldn’t take it because it can have side effects, even if it could otherwise help you” is garbage advice.

Also, the dosages at which stimulants and such are used for ADHD as a therapy (as opposed to abused) are generally quite small, fwiw.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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Congrats! You have found a comfortable job. Also my condolences, you've found a comfortable job. Jobs like these are a warm and cozy trap. If you're spending time reading blogs you may not be spending your time in a way you can look back on with pride. Time is your ultimate limited resource and the one thing you will regret not spending more wisely. Depending on your risk tolerance I recommend: 1. Quit, start a compa…

For me the salvation currently lies in 3. Whenever I suffer from loss of motivation I think about what I actually want to code, and usually there is something. Dig deep in memory and ask why you choose to become a dev. For me it was the tiny code projects where some interesting phenomenon could be explored. There are always new things to learn and fun ideas to try. Doing it during work hours is ok under the pretext of "training".

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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Read up a bit on ADHD. That 'hyperfocus' that occurs either with deadlines or on a passion project is a symptom, as is the inability to get excited about projects you simply don't want to do - especially given your otherwise positive reviews and your ability to clear your mind and hyperfocus near a deadline, it's something to consider. I was diagnosed at 33, and it changed my life infinitely for the better. YMMV, and…

What did you do to solve it? I recently saw this Reddit post [1] and immediately booked an appointment with my doctor. He gave me the run around and asked me to book a 15 min call with another doctor to get an anxiety assessment. As soon as the call began they asked if I felt like I had ADHD. I said maybe and they stopped and said that they only diagnose anxiety. Now I am 200$ poorer(thanks American healthcare) and a…

> As soon as the call began they asked if I felt like I had ADHD. I said maybe and they stopped and said that they only diagnose anxiety.

What they really meant is that their business is optimized for prescribing certain medications with the same diagnosis and same spiel given to every patent conversation.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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Read up a bit on ADHD. That 'hyperfocus' that occurs either with deadlines or on a passion project is a symptom, as is the inability to get excited about projects you simply don't want to do - especially given your otherwise positive reviews and your ability to clear your mind and hyperfocus near a deadline, it's something to consider. I was diagnosed at 33, and it changed my life infinitely for the better. YMMV, and…

"as is the inability to get excited about projects you simply don't want to do - " Why is this ADHD and not just being human? This sounds so basic I have a hard time believing this is because of a condition.

> Why is this ADHD and not just being human?

Because most people can work effectively on a project that they don't want to do by, for example, focusing on the positive benefits of doing the project or the negative consequences of not doing it. Someone with ADHD can go through the same reasoning and still not be able to pay attention and effectively work on the project.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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+1. I completely feel that and I definitely slacked more when employed by someone else doing something boring.

I was similarly surprised by hearing great things about me and how fast things get done (man, I did 10x the work for my own startup in the same time), but I think it boils down more to interpersonal skills, chatting on slack and showing my knowledge, solving problems quickly in the presence of others. People's feedback is not a good metric to estimate how much work gets done.

At the same time I can work hours straight with no distraction if I enjoy the problem or if I'm working on my business.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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Don't be too hard on yourself. Don't get into survival mode. Studies show that when people feel guilty/stressed for a behavior, they fall into the behaviors that they are trying to avoid. [1][2]

[1] https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/abs/10.1521/jscp.24.2.254.6...

[2] https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037/0003-066X.40....

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