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Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by nickjj »

mfkdksksi wrote: post #225
nickjj wrote: post #208

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I'd be curious how much different it would be if you got the same 1 week off twice a year but it was for a company trip, as in the company would pay for everything to take all employees (and a +1) skiing or some other activity. This would be independent of personal time off and these 2 weeks off would still be paid. I've never been on such a thing but I wonder if it ends up being a real vacation or if everyone is sti…

By definition I go on vacation to get a break from my coworkers and spend time with friends and family. I also generally get to decide the activities on vacation. Many things the company might fund that are fun for some people, like skiing, aren't activities that I'm interested in but would be obligated to participate in. What you described is a work retreat, not a vacation. I have been on such a trip. It was good fo…

> What you described is a work retreat, not a vacation. I have been on such a trip. It was good for work relationships. It definitely wasn't a vacation.

Would you mind sharing the details of what you did during the trip?

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by bongoman37 »

bradlys wrote: post #161
ramesh31 wrote: post #150

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>"Why is that? What's wrong with SF for dating? (just curious)" Where to begin? The tech industry is massively skewed towards male, so right off the bat your odds of meeting someone in your work life is near nil. Then, with the complete lack of affordable housing, there's no such thing as just being a single 20-something living independently and supporting yourself on a non-tech salary. Bare minimum subsistence incom…

Don’t feel too bad about the highly paid tech dudes. Tech dudes don’t stand a chance either because women don’t want to date another tech dude. I’m turning 31 in a couple months and am coming out of a 5 year relationship. It’s looking grim AF. My only real hope is that I get back with my ex eventually. I did the fancy vacations. I have the high income (~400k). I have a reasonably high net worth for my age (~2M). Even…

There is no money like old money.

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Post by silicon2401 »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #41
silicon2401 wrote: post #22

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This is a very subjective statement. The pandemic has been bar none the best period of my life. Increased physical and social distance from other people, no need to emote in public thanks to masks, no need to commute, greater accommodation for non-social options like self-checkouts. My physical and mental health have skyrocketed, and as a result I feel like I've been on vacation for a year and half, despite only taki…

I'm an extreme introvert as well, my wife is all the social interaction I require, and I'm a giant homebody, but I'm still super tired. Work wise I've been under pressure for a fair bit this year and there were no experiences to balance it out with. I miss a lot of small indulgences - quiet brunches on a Wednesday morning or going to get coffee. I may even miss the movie theater occasionally. I certainly don't miss w…

Perhaps you're not as extreme as you think, or perhaps I'm more extreme than most. I didn't miss movie theaters, eating out, driving, museums, malls, nothing. I have been able to stay in great shape with weights at home and biking, get more than enough socialization with my partner, and have plenty of hobbies that don't require interaction with or proximity to other people. There's a reason that my life goal is to escape into hermitude: I have zero interest in being around or seeing other humans unless they're loved ones.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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bradlys wrote: post #161
ramesh31 wrote: post #150

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>"Why is that? What's wrong with SF for dating? (just curious)" Where to begin? The tech industry is massively skewed towards male, so right off the bat your odds of meeting someone in your work life is near nil. Then, with the complete lack of affordable housing, there's no such thing as just being a single 20-something living independently and supporting yourself on a non-tech salary. Bare minimum subsistence incom…

Don’t feel too bad about the highly paid tech dudes. Tech dudes don’t stand a chance either because women don’t want to date another tech dude. I’m turning 31 in a couple months and am coming out of a 5 year relationship. It’s looking grim AF. My only real hope is that I get back with my ex eventually. I did the fancy vacations. I have the high income (~400k). I have a reasonably high net worth for my age (~2M). Even…

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Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by silicon2401 »

cashewchoo wrote: post #39
silicon2401 wrote: post #22

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This is a very subjective statement. The pandemic has been bar none the best period of my life. Increased physical and social distance from other people, no need to emote in public thanks to masks, no need to commute, greater accommodation for non-social options like self-checkouts. My physical and mental health have skyrocketed, and as a result I feel like I've been on vacation for a year and half, despite only taki…

I think it's very fair and valid for you to feel however you want with regards to shelter-in-place/wfh/lockdown, but to me it seems somewhat unconscionable to be smug like enjoying your time alone is a huge win against extroverts. I feel like it's a pretty ridiculous over-statement to say that introverts feel like they're in a pandemic normally. I'm an introvert and don't feel like that. I suspect the only people who…

Please tell me where I expressed any glee at other people's misfortunes. What I said was the following which is a statement, not an expression of emotion:

> Those of you who have found the slightly over a year duration of the pandemic difficult have gotten a sample of how miserable pre-pandemic life was for those of us who are more introverted or misanthropic.

It doesn't impact me what other people feel, but I do hope that people who have not enjoyed lockdown can gain some empathy for the people who have enjoyed lockdown. It seems more like you're defensive at somebody having different preferences than you, which is just how life works.

Additionally, I don't have anxiety. Not before nor during the pandemic. So my point was not anxiety, my point was that the same way life during the pandemic has caused many people inconvenience and frustration, pre-pandemic life is inconvenient and frustrating to me because of the obligation to play social games and always be around people. It's quite tiresome and irritating.

> I'm an introvert and don't feel like that.

I also didn't say all introverts feel like I do, I said pre-pandemic life is miserable for those of us who are _more_ introverted or misanthropic.

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Post by silicon2401 »

shmel wrote: post #30
silicon2401 wrote: post #22

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This is a very subjective statement. The pandemic has been bar none the best period of my life. Increased physical and social distance from other people, no need to emote in public thanks to masks, no need to commute, greater accommodation for non-social options like self-checkouts. My physical and mental health have skyrocketed, and as a result I feel like I've been on vacation for a year and half, despite only taki…

I keep hearing this over and over. I get it, some people are fairly introverted, some really enjoy WFH. But what stopped you from distancing from people and using self-checkouts before the pandemic? If you hate people, fine, just go home straight after work, you aren't obligated to hang out with anyone. It is not like the government would fine you for coming home before 11pm, right?

If you're a normal person who understands consequences and social interactions, you also understand that not playing social games comes at a cost. As you said yourself:

> just go home straight after work

In your own hypothetical example, I'm still required to be in an office or else be jobless. Finding remote jobs isn't trivial.

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Post by silicon2401 »

kaesar14 wrote: post #230
thrower123 wrote: post #54

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It's a third of my life, half of my waking hours, that I'm forced to be in a box, dealing with people I wouldn't choose to breath the same air as, pretending to be interested in their small-talk.

You voluntarily signed up to do the job.

By your argument, many people also voluntarily chose to stay home. Plenty of people continued flying, going on spring break, going to clubs, etc throughout the pandemic if there were no legal lockdowns.

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Post by silicon2401 »

bin_bash wrote: post #66
hh3k0 wrote: post #33

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> no need to emote in public thanks to masks I will miss that. I liked not being told that I look angry or that I should smile sometimes.

I’m curious, are you female? I don’t think I’ve ever been asked that unless I was unbelievably angry. Like maybe once or twice in my entire adult life.

As a male, it's happened to me quite often, since my age was in single-digits. I just have a naturally serious expression, I guess. It also applies to people from other cultures like eastern Europe, where it's not the default to go around smiling and laughing in public or making small talk to strangers. Default expressions vary quite a bit and maybe yours is just more cheery or neutral.

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Post by claytongulick »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #206
claytongulick wrote: post #172

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I met my wife at age 42, been happily married two years now. I've come to learn that relationships and my ability to navigate them have only improved with age. I look back at myself and how I treated people in my 20s and cringe.

How did exactly did you treat people in your 20's?

I could probably best describe it as non-malicious unintentional callous disregard, coupled with a belief that I'd mostly figured everything out - and a deep-seated need to always be "right" and "win".

I had not yet learned that at the point where there is an argument, both people have already lost.

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dharmab wrote: post #146

Adobe does two of these every year, one in winter around the holidays and one in July. From my perspective as an individual contributor, there are a few advantages: - With no feature/project work that week, there is zero pressure to check email or slack. - Teams are forced to build systems that are automated, resilient and documented enough that most of the staff won't need to be contacted during the shutdown week. -…

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