Funny to see people ask questions like LSE, lol you can probably figure out if someone on an alt account is a real amazonian or ex amozonian by asking them a few abbreviations. My experience is that everything this guy mentioned in this post is true and more worse things are true that are not mentioned. Working at amazon broke me. I had to go on Xanax after working at amazon and after quiting Xanax lost three jobs co…
Hmmm I was just an intern but during my code reviews I was told to use a lot of stuff from Google Guava or something like that?
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#522Former AWS engineer here. I worked on a pretty critical product in AWS (big AWS service with lots of traffic) and I can safely say that it's totally up to your manager and pre-existing conditions which make up the job. My manager was great as a person but would always lack in my career-oriented goals (bigger projects, promotions, etc) But what really sucked for me was the pre-existing conditions. Our on-call was pret…
Piggy-backing on the top-most-voted comment for those that will only read this one and not go to page 2 or onward. Drama gets heavily upvoted. If you keep scrolling you will find many individuals whose experience did NOT match this person (or OP's), who have a good work life balance, solve challenging tasks, and think this is the best job they've ever had. I'm one of those people. I've been at Amazon for almost 10 ye…
So I read this comment some time ago then scrolled quite far down the comments.
I have to report that there were very few people not expressing similar experiences than OP. It seems it is predominately resentment from people claiming to have worked for Amazon all the way down.
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This is incorrect: https://blog.aboutamazon.eu/discover-whats-behind-the-amazon... .
I'm genuinely not sure what those are. They appear to have been proposed at some Seattle facility: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazon/amazons-sleek-n... I've worked at two different facilities in CA and never once seen those. We still used the white/yellow/blue badge scheme. Are there any ambassadors in this thread who know what those are?
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#524What does Amazon need thousands of engineers for, exactly? Amazon.com is a fine website. It is finished. It is complete , perfect as it is. The website could remain the exact same for the next ten decades, with minor adjustments to the product menus to reflect new products, and it would serve its purpose perfectly without risking being dethroned by competitors. Why do millions of lines of code need to be written each…
Well this controversial opinion sure got pounded down. > The British cracked the German naval codes with no more mathematicians than can sit at a table. The Government Code and Cipher School employed almost 10k people during ww2.
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Former contractor here... blue = full-time/permanent employee white = seasonal/temp employee yellow = vendors (and DSP employees, if I remember right). It's more or less their way of tagging you with a yellow star so they know who they can treat like shit. Hah, just kidding, they treat everyone like shit.
The yellow stars shouldn't be taken lightly. Don't compare badge colors with what Nazis used for holocaust.
Is an entity imposing an identification system for quickly singling out populations with invisible but immutable characteristics? If so, the Yellow Badge comparison is apt because that's exactly what the nazis did with their badging system.
Amazon identifying people within certain buckets of employment doesn't fit this comparison because opportunities exist (in theory) for people to take other roles, to quit, or to be terminated, making Amazon badges identifiers of a mutable characteristic.
Now, is badging people by employment class a crappy thing to do? Probably. Easy way to enable eyeballing a worker and denying certain perks, for instance. But it's also useful in determining whether a person is qualified to hear certain company-confidential information.
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tl;dr: There's never a good reason to compel visible identification for an immutable trait, but that's also not what Amazon's badging scheme is, so using the comparison risks cheapening the original sin.
Hope this helps anyone reading. And to any historians who probably know better than I do, kindly fact-check me. I only know enough to be dangerous, not useful.
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If you don't desire to seek medical help, the best thing you can do is stop self harming and stop caring about all the possible negatives you are imagining. I've gotten fat from all the stress of being a working man. I need to stop caring about all of the pitfalls and just live my life.
You're obviously right. I started going to therapy and it helps (and I've stopped) but it still hurts.
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well the good news (for amazon) is that I used to work at a place where I was trying to build a cloud. And management suffered from EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEMS (though for different structural reasons, there was no "build a feature" incentive). And then we hired someone who used to work on amazon cloud who came with rave reviews, even though he completely failed my interview, which basically tested "do you read the spe…
Not just 2015. A lot of people, including me, would love for azure to be on par. Unfortunately it isn’t. Not in reliability, features, or even documentation. Hopefully it’ll get there. GCP is an odd duck. It really wants you to do things its way. But if you are doing a multi-cloud strategy the last thing you want is to go all in on the GCP way. Also they just don’t seem to treat customers as seriously as Amazon and A…
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Well then the point about leetcode doesn't mean much here. Yes, most companies do coding assessments, but that doesn't mean it's ironic that the comment was posted on leetcode itself. My experience with Amazon had no self guided coding assessment, it involved a human guiding you through a problem or multiple problems.
I've interviewed there twice and both times the first step was an automated coding assessment. Not leetcode but very similar. You're given a prompt and the expected function signature, and your code must pass a dozen or so test cases.
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How long ago was this? Its been a while since I talked to either amzn or fb, but their processes were basically the same to me. Your description of amzn was almost exactly what I experienced with fb. It would be nice to hear hiring practices changing at a big tech co though.
Spring/Summer 2020 Amazon was rebranded LeetCode for their "entrance level". FB was writing code in what appeared to be more Microsoft Word-like. (There was no console to check my work). But the conversations with actual humans was where things diverged. The systems design stuff for Amazon was very "we're looking to zing you". Facebook was definitely "hmmm, that's an interesting approach, have you considered....?" or…
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Amazon begged to interview, so i did. My friend worked there, and thought I go call her and find out how things worked there. That is when I discovered this forced termination of 30%. I thought it was 15% , but who's counting. So I gave amazon a choice. 2 year contract forced pay contract, if they fired me for any reason, other than fraud, I would collect the full amount. I done this twice. It was a defunct mobile co…
> So I gave amazon a choice. 2 year contract forced pay contract, if they fired me for any reason, other than fraud, I would collect the full amount. I done this twice. As someone who has hired contractors and full time employees many times, this is just insane. I don't care if you are Linus Torvalds himself, as an employer I would never sign a contract that is that lopsided, and to be honest I can't believe that any…