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I read a telling point about Jeff Bezos yesterday, he believes people, all people, are inherently lazy and will work to avoid work. The description seemed to be trying to say, without saying, he's an Ayn Rand disciple, meaning he drunk the Kool-Aid to believe he's a John Gault or an Roark and we're just the peons preventing him from greatness and his destiny.

Where did you read this? That's important context.

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An important lesson I've learned is to ask in the interviews "how is employee performance evaluated?"

If the response is blather about 360 peer review, be wary.

Also scan all available information about if they perform any stack ranking.

I worked at a place where managers would bring in other people just so they could meet their "must fire" quotas but keep their existing teams intact. I left shortly thereafter.

An organization must be able to identify and cope with true "non-performers" but when it turns into a global quota for all teams you're in the hunger-games.

The culture of a place radiates from upper management / C Suite; if they're sociopaths you end up with this sort of organization where certain types of people filter up.

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What does Amazon need thousands of engineers for, exactly? Amazon.com is a fine website. It is finished. It is complete , perfect as it is. The website could remain the exact same for the next ten decades, with minor adjustments to the product menus to reflect new products, and it would serve its purpose perfectly without risking being dethroned by competitors. Why do millions of lines of code need to be written each…

Well this controversial opinion sure got pounded down.

> The British cracked the German naval codes with no more mathematicians than can sit at a table.

The Government Code and Cipher School employed almost 10k people during ww2.

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“ If you're someone who likes your 7 hours of sleep a day, stay away.” how do people function long-term with so little sleep? I need at least 9 hours to not be a useless husk the next day.

I've been functioning on ~3.5 hours sleep per night for about 5 years now. You get used to it.

Don't you have better days and feel smarter, when you have slept more? It's a night and day difference to me. With little sleep, work is a chore and spare time is unorganized, with enough sleep I handle both better.

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Former AWS engineer here. I worked on a pretty critical product in AWS (big AWS service with lots of traffic) and I can safely say that it's totally up to your manager and pre-existing conditions which make up the job. My manager was great as a person but would always lack in my career-oriented goals (bigger projects, promotions, etc) But what really sucked for me was the pre-existing conditions. Our on-call was pret…

Yeah there's no way I'd put up with this. Trillion dollar company and still operating like it's amateur hour on many teams it seems.

The org is getting what it wants out of the team; why would they fix it?

As long as you've got meat for the grinder, you can keep making sausage.

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What does Amazon need thousands of engineers for, exactly? Amazon.com is a fine website. It is finished. It is complete , perfect as it is. The website could remain the exact same for the next ten decades, with minor adjustments to the product menus to reflect new products, and it would serve its purpose perfectly without risking being dethroned by competitors. Why do millions of lines of code need to be written each…

>> Not a software engineer or someone who's ever worked for AMZN.

Exactly. There is SO much more going on than you realize.

The Amazon retail website gets hundreds of thousands of orders every second. New code gets deployed literally every night.

The retail website is like the tip of an iceberg floating above the water. There are hundreds of web services underneath that provide the backend and data stores. Each one of those services has a team of engineers to maintain the service with one engineer oncall 24/7.

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post #51

“ If you're someone who likes your 7 hours of sleep a day, stay away.” how do people function long-term with so little sleep? I need at least 9 hours to not be a useless husk the next day.

I've been functioning on ~3.5 hours sleep per night for about 5 years now. You get used to it.

Apparently [0] some people are genetically disposed to require much less sleep than most, but no, you can't train yourself to perform normally when sleep deprived.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27471247

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Article does not support headline. Even if you don't stay at Amazon for many years, that doesn't mean your career is over or worse than having not worked there.

Also, it's about Amazon India, so take care before generalizing globally.

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“ If you're someone who likes your 7 hours of sleep a day, stay away.” how do people function long-term with so little sleep? I need at least 9 hours to not be a useless husk the next day.

I do 7 but 7.5 is my sweet spot. I pose the opposite: How do so many on this site need so much sleep?

There's a lot of natural variance in this. There's no a priori reason that your 7.5 makes more sense than somebody else's 9. Or a house cat's 12-16. It's like asking whether 5' 8" or 6' 1" is the correct height. You roll the genetic dice and they land where they land.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I don't disagree with your general point, I'm not sure it broadly applies here. Honestly, a nice B&B is probably priced pretty similarly to a business-class hotel. Why do I usually stay in business class hotels in cities? Chain hotels like Marriott's brands are pretty consistent quantities. A random B&B really isn't. Business class hotels also tend to have 24-hour desks, I can leave my luggage after checkout, e…

All true, but I’m not comparing a business-class hotel to a B&B, I’m comparing one kind of hotel to another. All the major chains have offerings in both markets I describe: 1. Hotels that appeal to guests who pay their own way, and; 2. Hotels that appeal to companies with business travel needs. The second type of hotel has the massive machine hidden from guests.

Certainly all the business class hotels have the ability to reserve room blocks, cater events, pre-book rooms, etc. But those are essentially additional profit centers. I'm just saying that many/most of us essentially deal with hotels 1:1 even for business travel.

But, yes, there are some brands of e.g. Marriott that are in part oriented to corporate events and the like and other that are mostly for individual travelers whether on vacation or business.

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