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Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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Does it not create jobs? Not saying it's good nor bad.

I'm not sure why this is being downvoted. Much, if not all, of politics, on both sides, for ordinary people, is concerning who gets what welfare. For every Oregon FAA there are probably 100 offices in the military and government agricultural sector that provide a small number of good but sort of meaningless jobs. For every 1 soldier actually shooting bullets or 1 bonafide back-bending farmer there are 999 comfy desk…

> Is that good or bad?

I’m gonna go with bad.

Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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Does it not create jobs? Not saying it's good nor bad.

I'm not sure why this is being downvoted. Much, if not all, of politics, on both sides, for ordinary people, is concerning who gets what welfare. For every Oregon FAA there are probably 100 offices in the military and government agricultural sector that provide a small number of good but sort of meaningless jobs. For every 1 soldier actually shooting bullets or 1 bonafide back-bending farmer there are 999 comfy desk…

People who want the "star trek future" don't seem to understand that, yes, work is valuable in its own right. It's better to work for your meal than have it handed to you. So, a primary concern of society is indeed keeping its people gainfully employed and we see outcomes that would not make sense were this not the case.

Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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North Carolina is notorious for this behavior. They tried to tell a man He could not talk with friends about his diabetes, and recommend foods they should eat. They were sued and had to settle. The state tried to say that only a dentist can do teeth whitening. They were sued (by the FTC) and lost. You should not need a license to talk with another individual about whatever you want. Should this man be allowed to testify in court without a license? Absolutely. It’s up to the court to decide his credibility and expertise, and allow it or disallow it. Not a government board.

Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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> It’s like the 10’s of thousands of people jaywalking without > issue and then the homeless guy that gets arrested for jaw walking. I'll take the opportunity to branch OT. This selective enforcement has always been such a problem, has there ever been any attempt - anywhere - to address it? Such that if a citizen can demonstrate selective enforcement he can also be absolved of the same crimes that the rest of the pop…

Just the concept of “jaywalking” as a punishable offense is revolting to me.

Ignoring the ford conspiracies how exactly should jaywalking be treated then? It's both a danger to the drivers and the people.

We can't get rid of cars and streets. That cat is over a hundred years outside of the bag. It's moved on, had it's own family, and died.

Jaywalking as a punishable offense makes sense to me at least. The level of punishment is often excessive certainly. $250 fine for stepping onto the street is far too much for a first offense (but perhaps for a habitual jaywalker it makes sense). Hell, I'm guilty of doing it a lot in my exurb area. However, when I do it it's because there's 2 miles between posted crosswalks and I make sure I can cross safely before trying. There aren't enough crosswalks - certainly.

Jaywalking laws create important predictability. I can assume that the average civilian is deterred by jaywalking law enough to not randomly step out onto the street at will. This means I can anticipate them only at crosswalks and intersections. You're already busy dodging drivers distracted with doing anything but driving (makeup, listening to podcasts, eating, reading a book, etc). If we didn't have these laws the risk to driving would be much higher. Many people think humans stand no chance against cars, but one errant jaywalker going through a car window can kill everyone in the vehicle given sufficient enough velocity. It's important to remember a 45 mph impact on a ~125-200 pound human carries with it tremendous momentum. Assuming they don't go through the car window, that same flying body can do lethal damage to law abiding people walking on the sidewalks.

The UK doesn't have jaywalking laws. I understand that. But the UK is far more "walkable". The US is by-and-large not. Especially as you get into "normal" towns and not major metros like LA and NYC. I would be willing to agree jaywalking laws need to be done away with if the US was more walkable.

Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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The worst example of this is Oregon has their own version of the FAA. It’s grandfathered in because it was established before the FAA. You pay $12 a year for an Oregon pilot’s registration. And in return for this bureaucracy, society gets... nothing.

Does it not create jobs? Not saying it's good nor bad.

If it creates jobs and doesn't do anything, it is bad, like anything else that has a cost but no benefits. Jobs are costs -- they force you to spend your life doing one thing when you could be doing all manner of other useful things. Only if your job produces useful things does that benefit outweigh the cost of having to spend your life on it.

Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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It has become more political in the past year I've noticed. Oh well. And the same arguments over and over and over and over.

ERCOT has been all in the news for the wrong reason this year. Most obvious was the snowpocalypse back in February. During the fall out of that, the ERCOT board went through personnel changes for various reasons. Now, we're being told by ERCOT that we have to once again limit our electricity use because of their mismanagement of resources. It's Texas. It gets hot during the summer causing people to use their AC units…

Sorry, I meant in general in HN, not anything specific to Texas.

Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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The retired "engineer" can talk about engineering, he just can't present expert witness in a trial.

Also, he was never licensed as an engineer, it's not as if his engineering license lapsed after testimony.

You can throw out all expert testimony in the US if you wish, I guess that would put CSI out of business.

Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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In the article it says he declared that he wasn’t a licensed engineer. At most, you could argue that his expert testimony is not valid, saying that it is illegal it is a whole different deal. It smells like corruption of the NC government to me.

"I'm not a medical doctor, but here is a bunch of medical advice that should be used to prosecute this defendant." It doesn't sound that great either way. Either you have the expertise to make such judgments, or you don't, and shouldn't try to pass off legal opinions you can't legally make with a disclaimer, as if that absolves everything. I can fully understand someone getting irritated at this and trying to go one…

Did you read the bit where 80% of employed engineers in North Carolina don't have an engineering license, but have an industry exemption from state law? He was legally an engineer for decades up until his retirement.

So imagine if 80% of doctors didn't have some sort of license allowing them to speak about their practice.

> In fact, like the majority of engineers nationwide, Wayne was not required to get a license since he worked for a company under the state’s “industrial exception.”

> By some estimates, 80% of engineers nationwide work legally without a license. By the Board’s interpretation, most engineers in North Carolina could not legally comment publicly on engineering.

Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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Texas may do a lot of crazy things when it comes to state government, but one thing I think we definitely got right is the Texas Sunset Commission ( https://www.sunset.texas.gov/ ). Basically, all boards set up by the state government are automatically abolished every 10 years I believe unless the state legislature passes a law to continue the board. So every 10 years the Sunset Commission evaluates agencies/boards a…

The US was actually founded with the idea that this should be done to the entire constitution every couple of decades.

That's utterly incompatible with Common Law, unfortunately.

Re: North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about engineering

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Texas may do a lot of crazy things when it comes to state government, but one thing I think we definitely got right is the Texas Sunset Commission ( https://www.sunset.texas.gov/ ). Basically, all boards set up by the state government are automatically abolished every 10 years I believe unless the state legislature passes a law to continue the board. So every 10 years the Sunset Commission evaluates agencies/boards a…

The worst example of this is Oregon has their own version of the FAA. It’s grandfathered in because it was established before the FAA. You pay $12 a year for an Oregon pilot’s registration. And in return for this bureaucracy, society gets... nothing.

While it's always possible OR AA employees do little (certainly plenty of organizations public and private have such employees), it also seems plausible that it does regional AA things that would otherwise be ... regional FAA jobs.

Bureaucracy isn't that different from code. Some of it's dead legacy that needs to be removed, some of it's legacy that needs to be improved/replaced, some of it's legacy that's good enough, some of it's there for a damn good reason no matter how ugly it looks.

And when it comes to code, you probably trust devs who have specific insights into issues with code and promising replacements.

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