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TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by topicseed »

reidjs wrote: post #142
topicseed wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature. Do you mean like Clubhouse?

Anecdotally, clubhouse rooms were higher quality before they allowed Android users into the platform. Not saying that there's something inherently wrong with android users, there's just a higher noise to signal ratio now.

Probably because the first users were naturally more selected and targeted. Opening up to more people, regardless of their phone, inevitably leads to a noiser experience indeed.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by tootie »

dimmke wrote: post #144
tootie wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's kinda unbelievable that there so much praise for their tightly controlled content and so much scorn for moderation done by Twitter or Reddit. It goes to show how much people's judgement is based on expectations and not absolutes.

I keep seeing these things about TikTok that are absolutely not true. There is definitely political content on TikTok. Here's a few with > 100k likes from a minute of searching "Immigration": https://www.tiktok.com/@janetwthehazeleyes/video/69415659895... https://www.tiktok.com/@attorneyericprice/video/691993902413... "Gun control" https://www.tiktok.com/@feministmama/video/69619490520616174... I keep seeing "facts"…

Idk, I've never opened tiktok. I'm reacting to people's comments.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by cwkoss »

wolverine876 wrote: post #148

There was a story awhile ago that TikTok's curation selected for relatively wealthy people, and I mean 'wealthy' the scale of rich countries. For example, they didn't want something shot in a home that looked impoverished, presumably because it wasn't the experience they wanted for their audience. I don't use TikTok, but a few times I've seen compilations of TikTok on YouTube, and the above description certainly matc…

> TikTok's curation selected for relatively wealthy people

Was this controlled in some effective way? Seems plausible that humans like looking at wealth, and so wealthy people tend to get more likes. It's like crowdsourced tabloids.

> Also, the compilations show people who are overwhelmingly white

I think that depends a lot on what filter bubble you get sorted into. Plant/science/compsi/engineering/lefist sections where I tend to hit like feel pretty diverse. The default 'prankbro/dance/thirsttrap/wealth porn' areas do seem predominantly white though.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by wolverine876 »

cwkoss wrote: post #153
wolverine876 wrote: post #148

There was a story awhile ago that TikTok's curation selected for relatively wealthy people, and I mean 'wealthy' the scale of rich countries. For example, they didn't want something shot in a home that looked impoverished, presumably because it wasn't the experience they wanted for their audience. I don't use TikTok, but a few times I've seen compilations of TikTok on YouTube, and the above description certainly matc…

> TikTok's curation selected for relatively wealthy people Was this controlled in some effective way? Seems plausible that humans like looking at wealth, and so wealthy people tend to get more likes. It's like crowdsourced tabloids. > Also, the compilations show people who are overwhelmingly white I think that depends a lot on what filter bubble you get sorted into. Plant/science/compsi/engineering/lefist sections wh…

> Was this controlled in some effective way?

According to the article, yes. Human curators were instructed on that policy. I don't remember how/if it was implemented in algorithms, but per the article, humans controlled who succeeded.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by cwkoss »

zffr wrote: post #33
ericls wrote: post #12

It’s easy to make money if you can sell addictive drugs before they are categorized as such.

Easy? I would push back on that. TikTok has built a great app, a community of creators, an audience to consume content, and relationships with advertisers to generate revenue. They have made careful design decisions to engineer how addictive it is. This is hard work, and few companies can pull it off.

The people who decided to shut down Vine really screwed the pooch on this one.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by passivate »

belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

> it scares me because it means that Chinese companies are just as capable as us to spin the next Facebook and distribute propaganda to the next generation.

Is there any good reason to focus on the misuse of a technology?

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by babesh »

wolverine876 wrote: post #148

There was a story awhile ago that TikTok's curation selected for relatively wealthy people, and I mean 'wealthy' the scale of rich countries. For example, they didn't want something shot in a home that looked impoverished, presumably because it wasn't the experience they wanted for their audience. I don't use TikTok, but a few times I've seen compilations of TikTok on YouTube, and the above description certainly matc…

My feed isn’t overwhelmingly white. It is very multiracial and not that US centric either. I suspect you give the algorithms cues as to what you want to see. I suspect my cues are the people I follow and I basically follow anyone who posts something I found fun or interesting.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by Clampower »

MasterScrat wrote: post #70
belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

So I installed tik tok for the first time yesterday. I don’t get how it’s supposed to show me things I like. It’s mostly hot girls doing makeup or teens running from the police and stuff. How do I get it to show me things I like? How does it discover my niche interests.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by pope_meat »

artificial wrote: post #143
curiousllama wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've decided to outsource dopamine production to The Chinese Algorithm and honestly it's going great

They collect biometric data now, faceprints and voiceprints. [0] [0] https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/03/tiktok-just-gave-itself-pe...

But the fun app made me look like a kitten, and all it cost me was privacy for the rest of time.

Can you say WORTH IT?

Heh.

Anxiety attack

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