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Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by rapsey » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:26 PM UTC

dncornholio wrote: post #9

rapsey wrote: post #3

TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

I tend to disagree, it's successful despite it's complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. If the content is good enough people really don't care.

The content is good because they surgically remove the bad.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by ericls » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:26 PM UTC

It’s easy to make money if you can sell addictive drugs before they are categorized as such.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by ericls » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:27 PM UTC

rapsey wrote: post #3

TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

It’s also becoming a Chinese state owned company

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by dartdartdart » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:27 PM UTC

rapsey wrote: post #3

TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

You know every company has to comply with regional laws: twitter got banned from that one African country, that doesn't mean twitter is against free speech. Tiktok has to comply with US laws to be able to enter the US market, and it also hires a bunch of US workers.

Your sinophobia is not welcome on this website.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by rapsey » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

dartdartdart wrote: post #14

rapsey wrote: post #3

TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

You know every company has to comply with regional laws: twitter got banned from that one African country, that doesn't mean twitter is against free speech. Tiktok has to comply with US laws to be able to enter the US market, and it also hires a bunch of US workers. Your sinophobia is not welcome on this website.

I have no idea what you are talking about or how it is sinophobia.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by dilap » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

rapsey wrote: post #3

TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

Huh? Major american social networks are highly censored. From the diversity of political opinions I see on TikTok, it certainly doesn't seem to be any more censored than say Twitter.

(Exception: TikTok does not allow explicitly sexual content, whereas twitter does. But facebook and instagram don't.)

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by runawaybottle » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

TikTok basically took the whole ice-bucket challenge and created a platform for it.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by endisneigh » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

rapsey wrote: post #3

TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

this is a strange comment.

are US social media comments bound by free speech laws? don't they all remove content arbitrarily just like tiktok?

how is this the top comment? lol. not to mention Vine was literally the same thing as tiktok - it had terrible execution and quickly died.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by nemothekid » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

rapsey wrote: post #3

TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

>TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship.

Huh? Are you just going to ignore Vine? Twitter completely screwed the pooch on Vine by not paying creators which drove many high profile influencers to move to Instagram. To attribute TikTok’s success to censorship is to eagerly insert your own political bias into their story. Regardless TikTok, née Musica.ly had already started gaining steam as an American company without any major decision on whether to participate in culture wars

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by xvector » Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 2:31 PM UTC

rapsey wrote: post #3

TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

Can you please source your claims? AFAIK TikTok ended censorship. You can even find vids with a lot of views talking about things like Tienamen Square, and I know friends whose FYPs are pretty political. It seems to me that you are confusing TikTok with Douyin (the Chinese version.)

The thing is, TikTok's audience self-censors. People go on the app to feel good, not because they want to be dragged into another political debate or negativity-inducing spiral like with literally every other social media.