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TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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> TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is nonsense. All the social networks have things they will remove and ban your account for, from spam and CP upwards (Instagram and FB being notoriously touchy about sexuality). It seems that TikTok is heavier about politics than most, but censorship is not a boolea…

TikTok removes or makes it much harder to find content they do not want on the platform. Things that are not the right tone. There is very little political and culture war crap on it. They don't just censor for abusive, CP, spam and so on.

> There is very little political and culture war crap on it

That all depends on what kind of content you engage with. There is plenty of "political and culture war" type content on TikTok. You probably just don't see it.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

Its basically shows similar content to the people that you follow.

I started following people from India and it will only show me content from India.

I unfollowed everyone, and started following indian people in USA, and it started showing me content from that.

I started following people in America, and it started showing me similar content.

It wouldn't show any new trends or new/different content.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

American companies can censor, they do it all the time. Free speech is protection of speech from prosecution by the government, not corporations.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

Having people spend their attention span w/ "fun" content – as opposed to political / critical – seems perfect for a dystopian state.

Better live in Huxleyan than in Orwellian world

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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You should also see the pathetic copycat feature YouTube has created called the shorts. Facebook's attempt with short videos and reels is not much better either. Why does every company feel the urge to copy this and also fail so badly at this

Are youtube shorts a failure? They seem to be immensely popular in terms of views/engagement. Reminds me of how people would deride Instagram for copying Snapchat stories, yet far more people probably use Instagram stories than snapchat and are perfectly satisfied with the UX despite it being a blatant copycat.

>Are youtube shorts a failure? They seem to be immensely popular in terms of views/engagement.

I just think that's only because "the algorithm" prioritizes shorts at the moment to try and push them and make folks even bother making them. Once YouTube starts acting neutral towards them I don't think they'll hold up.

I've never come across a short intentionally and after seeing quite a few I haven't tried to find further ones (and outside of mobile it's quite difficult to do so).

That said of course, I'm probably not in the demographic shorts plays to either.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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your comment is contradictory - if there is no political content, what propaganda is there to distribute? per your own comment wouldn't they just be distributing the "catchy" content?

Silencing political content is inherently propagating the status quo.

Yeah. My understanding of Chinese internet is that it's 99% fluff or celebrity news and other inconsequential things mixed with a bit of CCP approved nationalism

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Having people spend their attention span w/ "fun" content – as opposed to political / critical – seems perfect for a dystopian state.

Better live in Huxleyan than in Orwellian world

We're missing all the best parts of the Huxleyan sphere, though... more's the pity.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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The headline uses the word "earnings" incorrectly. > "ByteDance also saw its annual gross profit rise by 93% to to $19bn, while it recorded a net loss of $45bn for the same period."

How did ByteDance lose $45b…

They are expanding like crazy. Loss is not a problem at this stage.
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