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Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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Re: Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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Anecdotally, I lost multiple male friends when I came out as bisexual, so the “fragile masculinity” theory feels especially apt. The fear of being perceived as anything other than heterosexual by association seems to be a big problem with many men.

That you lost friends is a fact, that it was due to "fear of association" is speculation, one explanation among many.

Re: Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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I don't understand your meat noises Why is identity so important to folks? I'm attracted to some people, but I don't consider this fact any part of "my identity". Does this mean that I am lacking a basic human characteristic? Most of the language in this article sounds empty, when not foreign. It seems that I'm missing out something very important, but it really doesn't "click" for me. I guess I never moved past my c…

The whole LGBT movement and stuff wouldn’t need to exist if people were accepting. People aren’t. And still aren’t. When you actively oppress people for who they are, it’s not surprising it becomes more important.

I don't think this exists because it "needs" to, it exists because people want to read it. I think it's healthy to question why the audience is so responsive. It could be altruism, but people don't usually read articles out of altruism.

Re: Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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Sex coach and educator Violet Turning, 24, also points out the “fetishisation” of two women having sex or making out, specifically under the male gaze. It’s made same-sexual attraction between women more socially acceptable, albeit for the wrong reasons. Meanwhile, people seem to find notions of two men having sex far less palatable. A 2019 study that looked at attitudes toward gay men and women in 23 countries found…

This quote from the article speaks to that: > “Progress has really been made around the female gender role and less around the male gender role,” says Massey. I think this is a consequence of there being a female-focussed feminist movement, but not an equivalent movement focussed around male empowerment. It means that analyses like these are typically done from a female perspective with all the usual implicit biases…

I think it is more base than this. I believe it is that males with higher testosterone appear to focus on s3x more often than other groups; and they on the whole like girls.

Re: Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole LGBT movement and stuff wouldn’t need to exist if people were accepting. People aren’t. And still aren’t. When you actively oppress people for who they are, it’s not surprising it becomes more important.

Why do LGBT movements still exist in cultures that were/are very accepting of LBTQ individuals then? Alternatively: why are they completely absent in the countries that need them the most?

You can see them in more accepting countries, but many of those countries were far from accepting before.

The US wouldn’t need Black Lives Matter if they actually did. Skin color wouldn’t matter and wouldn’t be part of people’s identity if people weren’t racist.

Re: Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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I don't understand your meat noises Why is identity so important to folks? I'm attracted to some people, but I don't consider this fact any part of "my identity". Does this mean that I am lacking a basic human characteristic? Most of the language in this article sounds empty, when not foreign. It seems that I'm missing out something very important, but it really doesn't "click" for me. I guess I never moved past my c…

It's indeed because the language is empty and it should raise flags.

The posed question isn't answered. The article mentions that a higher percentage of women are lesbians. It implies that sexual fluidity is the opposite of heterosexuality, i.e. gay/lesbian.

Also look at how this article treats sex and gender as stable categories. That's very weird coming from researchers that study sexual fluidity.

Re: Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole LGBT movement and stuff wouldn’t need to exist if people were accepting. People aren’t. And still aren’t. When you actively oppress people for who they are, it’s not surprising it becomes more important.

Why do LGBT movements still exist in cultures that were/are very accepting of LBTQ individuals then? Alternatively: why are they completely absent in the countries that need them the most?

Clueless.

Re: Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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Sex coach and educator Violet Turning, 24, also points out the “fetishisation” of two women having sex or making out, specifically under the male gaze. It’s made same-sexual attraction between women more socially acceptable, albeit for the wrong reasons. Meanwhile, people seem to find notions of two men having sex far less palatable. A 2019 study that looked at attitudes toward gay men and women in 23 countries found…

There’s certainly something here, but I agree the framing as if fetishization were the cause is a real stretch.

Women are the “fairer sex” as they say. Maybe that’s a cultural phenomenon as well, but seems like a better culprit in this case.

Re: Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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I don't understand your meat noises Why is identity so important to folks? I'm attracted to some people, but I don't consider this fact any part of "my identity". Does this mean that I am lacking a basic human characteristic? Most of the language in this article sounds empty, when not foreign. It seems that I'm missing out something very important, but it really doesn't "click" for me. I guess I never moved past my c…

It's indeed because the language is empty and it should raise flags. The posed question isn't answered. The article mentions that a higher percentage of women are lesbians. It implies that sexual fluidity is the opposite of heterosexuality, i.e. gay/lesbian. Also look at how this article treats sex and gender as stable categories. That's very weird coming from researchers that study sexual fluidity.

AIUI, pure homosexuality is rather more common in males than females. That's not to say that male bisexuality or fluidity is not a thing for some males, of course it is. But pure lesbianism is comparatively rare.

Re: Why more women identify as sexually fluid than men

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Sex coach and educator Violet Turning, 24, also points out the “fetishisation” of two women having sex or making out, specifically under the male gaze. It’s made same-sexual attraction between women more socially acceptable, albeit for the wrong reasons. Meanwhile, people seem to find notions of two men having sex far less palatable. A 2019 study that looked at attitudes toward gay men and women in 23 countries found…

> It can’t be that heterosexual men are more tolerant and accepting of bisexual women than heterosexual women are of bisexual men.

Granted I'm basing this solely on my experience having grown up a heterosexual man, but that explanation seems absurd. By and large, it has not been the women who have been intolerant of homosexual men, but rather other men.

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