New browser signal could make cookie banners obsolete

Post by zeepzeep » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 1:25 PM UTC

dmm wrote: post #128

zeepzeep wrote: post #75

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You should check out uMatrix to get even more fine grained control over sites. I usually allow images on every page, that's it. Some need CSS, some need iframes, and a small subset of websites I visit are actual webapps that need javascript.

I love uMatrix but development on it has stopped so it won't receive bug fixes and it will probably stop working someday. I don't think I would recommend new users start using it. https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24532973

Post by nicoburns » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 1:35 PM UTC

belorn wrote: post #22

worldsayshi wrote: post #14

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Unless regulators force companies to respect automated protocols.

The GDPR already explicitly forbids 95% of the cookie banners out there, but large companies decided to ignore it and simply face the fines if they in some hypothetical future will arrive. The rest of the industry followed. Until the law that defined informed consent actually get enforced, a new law can not really fix it unless the regulators start to add the threat of jail time to repeat offenders.

Post by pulse7 » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 1:38 PM UTC

sam345 wrote: post #60

pulse7 wrote: post #25

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It is time for the governments to take control back and start regulating BigTech: you can not easily opt-out from any data gathering from Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, ... If you try it and turn it off on mobile phone and desktop you will constantly have issues and be flooded with messages like "turn on location services", etc. Yesterday I learned that my private calendar on my phone was replicated to Google Ca…

How is this possible? Probably forgot you gave consent to Google calendar?

Post by Ensorceled » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 1:40 PM UTC

morelisp wrote: post #53

pornel wrote: post #7

Reminder that we've already had a spec for it. In the 90s! And it even has been implemented in the Internet Explorer: https://www.w3.org/P3P/ It did absolutely nothing for privacy. Google has been sending bogus P3P headers that broke IE's implementation and allowed all cookies. Adtech companies don't want users to have an easy opt-out. They didn't want P3P. They didn't want DNT. They will not want this new spec, unle…

> Adtech companies don't want users to have an easy opt-out. They didn't want P3P. They didn't want DNT. They will not want this new spec, unless the spec is so bad that most users will agree by accident. Reminder that Internet advertising has a lot of actors with competing interests, and it is not usually the "adtech companies" who don't want users to have an easy-opt out, but publishers and to a lesser extent the a…

Post by Nextgrid » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 1:46 PM UTC

nicoburns wrote: post #143

belorn wrote: post #22

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The GDPR already explicitly forbids 95% of the cookie banners out there, but large companies decided to ignore it and simply face the fines if they in some hypothetical future will arrive. The rest of the industry followed. Until the law that defined informed consent actually get enforced, a new law can not really fix it unless the regulators start to add the threat of jail time to repeat offenders.

An standardised protocol approach might make enforcement easier. It would make it a lot more clear cut whether someone was infringing or not.