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Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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its the defining issue of our times and there is some of nuance: First, there is room (imho) for conventional growth in many parts of the world. Its insane that people go starving, without shelter or water while others throw away truckloads of food - because of "xyz". Then there is the branch of "personal growth" that is decoupled from material consumption. Getting every functioning brain to fully develop its faculti…

Starvation has not been a production issue in a long time. It's a geopolitical distribution issue.

its all linked. you can't just gift stuff without destroying much of economic organization and ownership concepts etc. you can't get local production going without owning the problem of corrupt local elites (which most likely you educated in your own image) etc...

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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I have an 8 yo that _really_ wants to do videos. Just this morning, she helped her mother cook the meal, but she wanted to roleplay as if she was recording a YT video like the ones she watches. It was honestly hilarious - I was HW just across a door - but at the same time frightening when you think about how much this new media permeates our society. P.S.: Having already lost the war with my daughters from a previous…

Our 13 year old has the youtube culture ingrained as well, with a lot of things he feels like he should voice his opinion even if nobody asked, or he comes out with some BS that he knows nothing about, but instead of going "I don't know" he'll just say it with confidence. I'm sure that's a youtube thing, because silence and not having an opinion won't get you those dank views. Is this my "get off my lawn" moment?

> I'm sure that's a youtube thing

That's a human thing. Has been happening for centuries.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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FWIW I have a pihole running on my local, but my Samsung TV still shows YT ads because I cannot disable cdn.samsung.com or the TV will not work, and I think the ads are being served via this domain to my TV....

Get yourself a Nvidia shield. It has no advertisement build in and even can turn on and off the host TV. Also, I would advise you to disconnect your smart TV entirely.

I have an Nvidia Shield, and ran PiHole for a bit. It didn't block youtube ads for me, but might be regional ranges not being blocked. Eventually I stopped using PiHole since it broke some payment processors at times, and there was no easy way for family members to temp disable it and it became unmanagable.

Loved the concept though.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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This is exactly what came to mind when I read the title. Now I need to go and watch Futurama again..

Seems like it was a subliminal ad for Futurama then.

nah, that was the hypnotoad....

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Problem is there's a finer line between persuasion and coercion than people appreciate. Use guys with guns to sell white powder and you're a bad guy. Place chocolate at kid height at checkout and you're a business guru.

It appears to me that the line is quite thick if you want to draw it between guys with guns and chocolate on a shelf. One of those situations is pretty transparently more coercive than the other. However, with reference to say the East India Companies, history has established that bands of guys with guns is also a path to being hailed as a business guru.

"Transparently" is the operative word. The guns aren't for consumers, in any case. They're for competitors.
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