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Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

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Post by techrat »

AlexandrB wrote: post #145
tyingq wrote: post #29

Freenode: Current global users 49980 Libera: Current global users 32769 Freenode's decline in users over the past month: http://www.hinner.com/ircstat/Socip_F_2.gif Comparison showing Freenode decline and Libera rise: https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php Probably won't be long before Freenode is effectively dead. Edit: Also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27502059 for a projection and more stats.

Meanwhile on the freenode.net front page: > The future for freenode and FOSS communications, indeed, looks bright and exciting. Stay tuned for many great things to come!

That sentence reads like pure cocaine.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

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Post by cout »

azinman2 wrote: post #148
tyingq wrote: post #29

Freenode: Current global users 49980 Libera: Current global users 32769 Freenode's decline in users over the past month: http://www.hinner.com/ircstat/Socip_F_2.gif Comparison showing Freenode decline and Libera rise: https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php Probably won't be long before Freenode is effectively dead. Edit: Also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27502059 for a projection and more stats.

So what’s odd to me is how high freenode’s numbers still are. That’s a lot of people. If all the major FOSS projects have moved on, and with all the bad press, how is it there are still so many people on it? What channels are they on? Is their death greatly exaggerated?

I suspect a lot of the remaining users are on both networks.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

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Post by manabi »

techrat wrote: post #191
AlexandrB wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile on the freenode.net front page: > The future for freenode and FOSS communications, indeed, looks bright and exciting. Stay tuned for many great things to come!

That sentence reads like pure cocaine.

It's not as bad as one from their message when they wiped Freenode, which include the line "freenode is freedom." Someone either hasn't read 1984, or deliberately echoed it.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#195

Post by manabi »

jokoon wrote: post #165
haunter wrote: post #45

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That low? IRC is truly dead But then again everyone is on Discord now so no surprise

You can't even bookmark or favorite channels on discord. On discord, instead of joining channels, you join server (which aren't really servers BTW) with all their sub-channels, it is utterly impractical to use.

And you have to use Discord's client, which looks the same in the browser and on the desktop. Among other things you simply cannot watch multiple channels at the same time, even on the same server. You have to switch back and forth between them, and in my experience you give up and stay in one or the other. If they're on different servers, it's even more of a pain.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#196

Post by squiggleblaz »

distances wrote: post #186
Kiro wrote: post #112

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IRC is not dead but I was also surprised by those numbers. Random Discord servers for niched things have more users than those combined and the big ones have hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of users.

Any idea of user count on other networks? Is IRCnet still the largest? Are EFnet and QuakeNet still alive? Edit: the IRC Wikipedia page has numbers from a couple of years ago. IRCnet is twice the size of EFnet and QuakeNet, freenode was three times the size of IRCnet.

You may find this resource useful for current values: https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=2021

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

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Post by manabi »

jeltz wrote: post #143
dole wrote: post #127

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My money's on ridiculous crypto exit scam

Either that or rasengan is setting everything on fire because he is a sore loser.

On a related note, he changed his nick to root. I'm pretty sure he did it because of the saying "root is god," which is true on *nix platforms. (The root user can do anything, including deleting the entire filesystem while the computer is running. It's powerful and meant to be used in moderation.)

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#198

Post by manabi »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #109
darklion wrote: post #77

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That's sort of my question. What's the end goal for Freenode? They're burning the network to the ground. Is there some positive outcome for them here that I'm missing?

Once they've burnt it to the ground, they'll have a blank slate. It looks like they're trying to make a job board for channers…? It might work; I'm confused enough to think I'm missing something. If others feel that same confusion, Lee's Freenode might be able to get some venture capital.

Well it's been burnt to the ground, they wiped services and started anew on a different IRCd. And I noticed that user's hostnames are hidden by default now. Things like "@freenode-tbu.1hs.4lttne.IP" & "freenode-0ji.04k.68srct.IP."

Making everyone more anonymous seems very chan-like.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

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Post by death916 »

manabi wrote: post #195
jokoon wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't even bookmark or favorite channels on discord. On discord, instead of joining channels, you join server (which aren't really servers BTW) with all their sub-channels, it is utterly impractical to use.

And you have to use Discord's client, which looks the same in the browser and on the desktop. Among other things you simply cannot watch multiple channels at the same time, even on the same server. You have to switch back and forth between them, and in my experience you give up and stay in one or the other. If they're on different servers, it's even more of a pain.

This is the biggest pain for me with discord. Third party clients have tabs for specific channels u can use but it's still not as easy to monitor multiple places like it is in irc. And also it's against TOS

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#200

Post by Akronymus »

tothecore13423 wrote: post #187
zatertip wrote: post #7

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You are correct. This will drive everyone away. Which is why we have graphs like this: https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php Freenode is dying and the staff are actively killing it.

Doesn't make sense. If its dying why bother killing?

Because apparently it isn't dying fast enough.
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